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Using button release instead of paddle...


If your fingers reach, it is really awesome!
 

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Thanks for sharing the video. He does gain a little speed by not using the charging handle (inferring there is already a round in the chamber).

When performing a mag change, my understanding is that following the manual of arms (pull charging handle, strip mag out while depressing paddle, grab/insert new mag, slap charging handle) helps avoid any problems. Pulling the charging handle helps with clearing the chamber while slapping the handle gives sufficient bolt momentum to feed/chamber the next round.
 

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Thanks for sharing the video. He does gain a little speed by not using the charging handle (inferring there is already a round in the chamber).

When performing a mag change, my understanding is that following the manual of arms (pull charging handle, strip mag out while depressing paddle, grab/insert new mag, slap charging handle) helps avoid any problems. Pulling the charging handle helps with clearing the chamber while slapping the handle gives sufficient bolt momentum to feed/chamber the next round.
You are correct! The "by the book" method is bolt back, mag out, new mag in, slap to drive bolt forward. That method works but is not the fastest. Try the drill you see me running and strive to get it under 4 seconds with Zero Down (all 4 hits in the 0 on a IDPA target).
 

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You are correct! The "by the book" method is bolt back, mag out, new mag in, slap to drive bolt forward. That method works but is not the fastest. Try the drill you see me running and strive to get it under 4 seconds with Zero Down (all 4 hits in the 0 on a IDPA target).
So, in a firefight, are you going to accurately count your shots or dump loaded mags on the deck?
 

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So, in a firefight, are you going to accurately count your shots or dump loaded mags on the deck?
Hopefully the paper won't be shooting back......with all this AI and robot talk I am starting to wonder!!!!!!! :)
 

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Not sure about that technique. But I dig your trend setting style. The next time you hit the range, everyone will be wearing white tape on their pants.
 

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Not sure about that technique. But I dig your trend setting style. The next time you hit the range, everyone will be wearing white tape on their pants.
New Camo!!! 2017 edition!
 

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I think people lose the concept that there are multiple disciplines at work in the firearms industry today. There are those that train to operate and there are those that train to game. While there is certainly some overlap, there is a vast amount of difference. Tactical reload's are sacrilegious with an MP5 however in competitive shooting, if you don't tactical reload you are losing time. I have seen Derek time and time again perform flawless tactical reloads with the platform which is a testament to his skill as a competitive shooter.
 

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I think people lose the concept that there are multiple disciplines at work in the firearms industry today. There are those that train to operate and there are those that train to game. While there is certainly some overlap, there is a vast amount of difference. Tactical reload's are sacrilegious with an MP5 however in competitive shooting, if you don't tactical reload you are losing time. I have seen Derek time and time again perform flawless tactical reloads with the platform which is a testament to his skill as a competitive shooter.
Well said and Thank You! I put this up as a good example of a drill and challenge for our friends here. Regardless of your training or mindset, try what I showed and see if you can consistently shoot it in under 4 seconds clean. In competition, doing a by the book reload is like signing your death certificate. Even if you train by the book on reloads, challenge yourself to this and show me some videos of some rockin times under 4 seconds. I practice by the book reloads and can execute them in my sleep. It is doing the ones like you see here and getting the mag inserted cleanly/fast is what the challenge is about. Hope it helps all my friends here improve!!!!!
 

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I think people lose the concept that there are multiple disciplines at work in the firearms industry today. There are those that train to operate and there are those that train to game. While there is certainly some overlap, there is a vast amount of difference.
Well said. I surely lose sight of this. What precious little time I have to train is spent trying to ensure I can get myself and my family out of a bad situation if I have to. Oh to have time to play!
 
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