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Gents,

I am in the process of building a 416 clone, using the original 416 upper, carrier, handguard & gas block.

I was not able to find the 416 bolt & barrel but I can purchase MR223 parts. Are the MR223 bolt & barrel (10.3") compatible ?

thank !
 

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It's not from ZIB.

I have a contact that provide my company with a full parts kit from an HK416D, except barrel & bolt.
 

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Well yeah bottom line is the same, it is now possible to get 416(D) parts except BCG and barrel, which are the "only" parts regulated. At least in Germany, where these 416 parts are being sold (for what i know).
 

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Montrala, I am also going into the same direction as our Belgian friend. What do you recommend if someone wants to build a 10.4 upper knowing what's on sale in the EU? I saw an upper on sale on GB at ca 3.7K and that is a bit overkill..
I have my doubt he is a friend.
 

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Zib actually gets the parts from an Austrian firm who gets them direct from HK. I assume that they are cleaning out the back of old parts that are getting superseded by new stuff... Other oddballs like G41 barreled actions have popped up in Germany.

I assume the original poster is trying to put together a legal ful auto (legal in Belguim and other places).
 

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In fact, I am ordering directly from the Austrian company ;-)

And yes, I am in a situation where I can legally build a gun (I have the complete gunsmithing licence).

I will check with the supplier the type of the upper receiver.

I have a friend, a licenced collector who can legally own full autos, who is seriously considering buying a 416 clone and a solution would be to build one from those NOS parts. But the supplier doesn't have the barrel nor the bolt. I suppose that a 10.3" MR223 pre-A3 barrel would be a perfect fit.
 

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how difficult would it be to manufacture a barrel according to specs? HKParts has some barrel assemblies for the 416 (out of stock) which are surprisingly cheap. Maybe something custom made could partially help?
 

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Montrala:
My 416 uppers (AFs and an AI that I used to own) all have a notch in the upper receiver into which slides a notch on the barrel extension. There is no wedge to slip in to place.
That is what I mean. You can not mate "old" HK upper (pre-A5) with "new" HK barrel (A5) or vice versa.
 

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And you can't mate an HK 416 bolt carrier with a MR223 barrel...

The carriers sold are 416 type but I am stuck with the requirement to find an 416 barrel. I will give a check with the importer and see if he can find a 416 barrel.
 

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Update: I found 416 barrel extensions...but now, the whole issue is to find the template for which turning the barrel. Does anyone know/has the profile drawing ?

The profile & the position of the gas port is critical.
 

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In fact, I am ordering directly from the Austrian company ;-)

And yes, I am in a situation where I can legally build a gun (I have the complete gunsmithing licence).

I will check with the supplier the type of the upper receiver.

I have a friend, a licenced collector who can legally own full autos, who is seriously considering buying a 416 clone and a solution would be to build one from those NOS parts. But the supplier doesn't have the barrel nor the bolt. I suppose that a 10.3" MR223 pre-A3 barrel would be a perfect fit.

I have very serious doubts that you have a gunsmithing license, yet ask around on dimensions that are a) easily obtained b) easily derived c) literally easy to come up with for a gunsmith. You literally blew your already thin "cover" with your gas port questions.

Also, if you were an actual gunsmith licensed to produce a weapon of war, you would not be going around on a forum asking for a manual to do that, literally because "you ought to know why".
Regardless of what administrators of this forum are doing, I suggest one thing: Stop fishing for information of this kind on this forum or I will inform iARMS.
 

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Gents,

I am in the process of building a 416 clone, using the original 416 upper, carrier, handguard & gas block.

I was not able to find the 416 bolt & barrel but I can purchase MR223 parts. Are the MR223 bolt & barrel (10.3") compatible ?

thank !
I assume you already got all sorted?
Otherwise, yes both bolt and barrel are compatible, but you need to remove a small notch on the barrel extension of the MR223 barrel.
Bor od MR223 is the same as 416. You need to use a 416 barrel nut.
 

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I have very serious doubts that you have a gunsmithing license, yet ask around on dimensions that are a) easily obtained b) easily derived c) literally easy to come up with for a gunsmith. You literally blew your already thin "cover" with your gas port questions.

Also, if you were an actual gunsmith licensed to produce a weapon of war, you would not be going around on a forum asking for a manual to do that, literally because "you ought to know why".
Regardless of what administrators of this forum are doing, I suggest one thing: Stop fishing for information of this kind on this forum or I will inform iARMS.
Seriously, reporting someone for asking about information?
 
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