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I'm mostly a lurker, but I've come out of my shell a bit lately. I wanted to show off my newest clone I purchased recently. I've been on a kick to get fairly set with my NFA items before 41F becomes effective. It'll just be too much hassle (and probably too many questions) if my wife has to go get fingerprinted for each new NFA item as well. To be honest, I had never really considered a G36 based anything until I saw some pics of some XM8 clones Tom has been working on. That was maybe a couple months ago now. After getting an SL8 for an XM8 conversion I just saw the potential and looked around to see what a G36 conversion would take. Then I heard about some complete K length rifles being available at reasonable prices (for what they are). I took advantage of the opportunity. I filed the eForm form 1 within 24 hours of getting it home, so the silly flash hider will be coming off eventually.

This is a G36K clone built as a collaboration between Tom Bostic and Engage Armament. To quote Tom on another thread of mine:

we were able to manufacture a very small number of semi auto G36 rifles from several different parts kits along with a few added machined parts. These were manufactured with internal block offs just like the SL8 to prevent the G36 carriers from fitting in and use all the normal semi auto parts you would find in the standard SL8 conversions out there. I believe they are selling them in the $4500 range and there are only a few left. Unfortunetly opportunities like this are rare , Ive only been able to collect enough parts to build about 1 a year or so. These were all manufactured at Engage Armament with my help under their 07 license and they all have The Engage Armament LLC FFL markings on them, I do believe two still had the original H&K markings that were left mostly intact.
Being a complete newbie on this system/platform I didn't know what I had even after I had it in hand. I thought it was odd not to see the serial number plate on the left side as I had seen in lots of other SL8 conversion pics. I just assumed it was an SL8 conversion because, well, that's what's out there, right? Having only handled my SL8 for the XM8 project, I was blown away at how light, balanced, and handy this G36K is. I'm completely enamored with it. Now I'm scrambling to scrape up enough money to start a G36C project. I need to get a Form 1 in for one of those.

Anyway, to the pics...



 

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Sweet G36
 

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Looks great. You can say for a fact you own a semiauto only G36. Yours having never been an SL8. Congratulations on your rifle!

A different thought, what will you lost one your Form 1 as the model? Is it the same serial as when it was a full auto G36?
 

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Hi folks,

I'm mostly a lurker, but I've come out of my shell a bit lately. I wanted to show off my newest clone I purchased recently. I've been on a kick to get fairly set with my NFA items before 41F becomes effective. It'll just be too much hassle (and probably too many questions) if my wife has to go get fingerprinted for each new NFA item as well. To be honest, I had never really considered a G36 based anything until I saw some pics of some XM8 clones Tom has been working on. That was maybe a couple months ago now. After getting an SL8 for an XM8 conversion I just saw the potential and looked around to see what a G36 conversion would take. Then I heard about some complete K length rifles being available at reasonable prices (for what they are). I took advantage of the opportunity. I filed the eForm form 1 within 24 hours of getting it home, so the silly flash hider will be coming off eventually.

This is a G36K clone built as a collaboration between Tom Bostic and Engage Armament. To quote Tom on another thread of mine:



Being a complete newbie on this system/platform I didn't know what I had even after I had it in hand. I thought it was odd not to see the serial number plate on the left side as I had seen in lots of other SL8 conversion pics. I just assumed it was an SL8 conversion because, well, that's what's out there, right? Having only handled my SL8 for the XM8 project, I was blown away at how light, balanced, and handy this G36K is. I'm completely enamored with it. Now I'm scrambling to scrape up enough money to start a G36C project. I need to get a Form 1 in for one of those.

Anyway, to the pics...



very nice! Thanks for sharing the pics!
 

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A different thought, what will you lost one your Form 1 as the model? Is it the same serial as when it was a full auto G36?
Having recently had a Form 1 kicked back over model name, I asked first. The model number is "G36KE1". That also happens to be what's engraved on the side, so I made sure to have a picture of that attached to the eForm. I can't say for sure, but I think the serial number was generated by Engage Armament. I'd rather not share the serial number, but I think looking at it most would probably agree.
 

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That looks great! Very cool how it was made using real G36 parts, and not an SL8.
I really lucked into it. I just heard about them being available, asked the price as a curiosity, and did the mental math on how much I'd have to spend to get something as nice. I couldn't believe the deal. Then it was more a question of if I could rub enough pennies together to do it immediately. I know how out-of-whack GunBroker prices can get on things, but this was less than several of the listed stock-block variety I had seen.
 

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Having recently had a Form 1 kicked back over model name, I asked first. The model number is "G36KE1". That also happens to be what's engraved on the side, so I made sure to have a picture of that attached to the eForm. I can't say for sure, but I think the serial number was generated by Engage Armament. I'd rather not share the serial number, but I think looking at it most would probably agree.
Sure, I am not asking for you to reveal the serial, rather I am asking to know if it is the same serial the G36 had. I ask because I am curious how ATF will handle a form 1 to make a sbr, with a model G36KE1, that has a serial number of a G36 more than likely listed in the registry. Please understand I am not making any comment about the legality of your rifle, I believe it is GTG. I am curious to see how ATF responds to the application.
 

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Sure, I am not asking for you to reveal the serial, rather I am asking to know if it is the same serial the G36 had. I ask because I am curious how ATF will handle a form 1 to make a sbr, with a model G36KE1, that has a serial number of a G36 more than likely listed in the registry. Please understand I am not making any comment about the legality of your rifle, I believe it is GTG. I am curious to see how ATF responds to the application.
No worries. Like I said, I don't believe the serial number on it now is the same as the original G36's (likely multiple donors) that the receiver pieces came from. Not that I have many HK arms, but the serial number doesn't look like any of my other HKs. I listed Engage Armament LLC as the manufacturer, and had to enter the model instead of using something pre-populated in the dropdown selections. As such, the application goes into a state where it's pending research. It didn't get a control number initially. This is the second form 1 I've had that happen on. The other one took a month to get updated to pending and get a control number assigned. I have heard of a case where someone had a Krinkov SBR'd. Did the paperwork to remove it from the NFA registry (and make it a Title I gun again). Sold it. Then the purchaser filed a Form 1. That purchaser got held up because of delays in recording the un-SBRing of that rifle -- for a year. When their application came up for review the serial number still showed up as a SBR for the examiner and they had to get things sorted. We'll see what happens with this one. I'm not too worried about it.
 

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I believe they have one left.
I was referring to the SL8s in general when they were being imported. Unfortunately don't have the coin to drop for a fully converted one right now. Still hoping one day to find a steal on a SL8 and convert it
 

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Does the serial start with the prefix 83, 84, 85, or 86? I believe those are how all of the G36's started. The various 8X numbers denote the models of G36. Not too sure off hand how many places they have after the prefix and dash. I would hazard a guess that if you have one of these prefixes, and the rest of the serial is numbers, they reused the G36 serial. I understand what you were describing about eforms. I am interested to hear what you turn up in the process. Again, that is a mighty fine looking rifle right there.
 

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Does the serial start with the prefix 83, 84, 85, or 86? I believe those are how all of the G36's started. The various 8X numbers denote the models of G36. Not too sure off hand how many places they have after the prefix and dash. I would hazard a guess that if you have one of these prefixes, and the rest of the serial is numbers, they reused the G36 serial. I understand what you were describing about eforms. I am interested to hear what you turn up in the process. Again, that is a mighty fine looking rifle right there.
The serial number starts with E36K.
 

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I was referring to the SL8s in general when they were being imported. Unfortunately don't have the coin to drop for a fully converted one right now. Still hoping one day to find a steal on a SL8 and convert it
Depending on what you consider a "steal", that SL8 in my last picture I picked up a couple months ago on GunBroker for $1400. That was fair to me.
 
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