[hellobob09]

I was shooting my HK45C this Sunday when 2 rounds into some Winchester 230 grain FMJ ammo my weapon encountered an unforeseen problem.

I have an unfired live round lodged in the weapon while the slide is an inch past the standard resting point.

I've done all I can to clear the round, but the slide will not move more than a millimeter in either direction.

Has anyone encountered a problem like this? I'm worried, as I doubt HK or any Smith will look at a weapon with a live round lodged in it.

 

[echoone]

I'm curious as to how this happened. Was the primer struck?

 

[hellobob09]

No, the slide-breach safety (I'm unsure of the correct nomenclature) prevented the trigger from engaging. The trigger is still limp due to this safety (as you can tell from the picture, the slide is a solid quarter-inch back). The weapon cycled perfectly well until the second round of this magazine.

I initially thought that the live round double fed onto a spent cartridge, but due to logic, my foolhardy use of a flashlight, and my eyeball, I now know that the casing ejected and a live round is jamming the weapon and preventing any movement of the slide. I really can't speak to the nature of the problem beyond that, but I'm more than willing to answer any questions this forum may have.

 

[Saoirse32]

I'm at a loss here...we need better pics if you want help. How would a live round be in there, meaning the barrel?

 

[hellobob09]

I really hate looking down the muzzle at a live round, but here's a few pictures to elucidate the nature of the problem..
Let me know if I need to retake them.

 

[Teslaus]

guide rod out of place, caused enough tension on opposite ends to lock the slide in place? I'd call customer service ASAP when they open. 0800 EST. 706-568-1906

 

[hellobob09]

I didn't notice any problems with the guide rod, but I can't exactly see whats going on inside the weapon for obvious reasons. Are you speaking with authority when you say the guide rod is the root of the problem?

My plan was to call HK support, but I don't know that any postal delivery service will transport a weapon with a live round inconveniently trapped in the action.

I apologize if questioning your diagnosis is a stupid thing to do, I am a new user to these forums.

 

[Montrala]

I've done all I can to clear the round, but the slide will not move more than a millimeter in either direction.

I had similar looking malfunction with 9mm rounds, when case mouth was damaged (bent) in factory ammo. I usually clear this by grabbing slide over the top with one hand and hitting back with the grip with other hand. You can also try to manually disengage extractor claw (push on back of extractor) to make it slip case rim and try to pull the slide at same time ("3-handed" operation but doable).

 

[Klaustrophobia]

Looks to me like a seriously deformed round jammed it up.

 

[MKabar]

As Montrala said or hit with slide (not the frame, slide only) on some thick table/wooden desk. Point the gun to the ground safely of course.
And don´t touch the trigger. It will open up with some more force, the case is deformed and it´s jammed in the chamber.
It´s not a malfunction of the gun I think. Or put some oil in the chamber, even through the barrel, it can help to loose the jammed round little bit.

 

[Spart]

I had similar looking malfunction with 9mm rounds, when case mouth was damaged (bent) in factory ammo. I usually clear this by grabbing slide over the top with one hand and hitting back with the grip with other hand. You can also try to manually disengage extractor claw (push on back of extractor) to make it slip case rim and try to pull the slide at same time ("3-handed" operation but doable).

Looks to me like a seriously deformed round jammed it up.

As Montrala said or hit with slide (not the frame, slide only) on some thick table/wooden desk. Point the gun to the ground safely of course.
And don´t touch the trigger. It will open up with some more force, the case is deformed and it´s jammed in the chamber.
It´s not a malfunction of the gun I think. Or put some oil in the chamber, even through the barrel, it can help to loose the jammed round little bit.

I agree here. Sounds like a bad round. I had a similar problem when there was a case that had a crimp in it and got stuck in my 92FS. Gun went 90% of the way into battery and got hella-stuck.

What I ended up doing was putting the slide ONLY (ie, make sure the frame or barrel are out of the way) on a wooden ledge, point away from me of course. Then I would use the palm of my hit the back of the grip. A couple good wfacks and the round was ejected. All was good; no damage to my Beretta. You're talking steel vs wood/brass at that point.

But, yea, maybe spraying some Liquid Wrench or WD40 down the barrel would be a good idea as well.

 

[rochkes]

I agree here. Sounds like a bad round. I had a similar problem when there was a case that had a crimp in it and got stuck in my 92FS. Gun went 90% of the way into battery and got hella-stuck.

What I ended up doing was putting the slide ONLY (ie, make sure the frame or barrel are out of the way) on a wooden ledge, point away from me of course. Then I would use the palm of my hit the back of the grip. A couple good wfacks and the round was ejected. All was good; no damage to my Beretta. You're talking steel vs wood/brass at that point.

But, yea, maybe spraying some Liquid Wrench or WD40 down the barrel would be a good idea as well.

I also agree with this. I have saw what appears to be the same thing many times. The shed where I shoot has 8"x8" wood posts. I usually just put the slide against a post, muzzle away from me of course, and just push forward on the grip.


Dennis

 

[robertp]

I don't know how much experience you have but sometimes all it takes is a good hard wack on the bottom of the magazine with your palm to get it to go into battery.

 

[CCT125US]

I don't know how much experience you have but sometimes all it takes is a good hard wack on the bottom of the magazine with your palm to get it to go into battery.

Your solution has nothing to do with the stated problem.

 

[robertp]

Your solution has nothing to do with the stated problem.

If the OP didn't have much experience he wouldn't known this is the first thing to do when this problem arises.

 

[CCT125US]

If the OP didn't have much experience he wouldn't known this is the first thing to do when this problem arises.

Please explain how inserting a magazine and giving it "a good hard wack" will remove a stuck cartridge.

 

[robertp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2cPok3Z_U4
After watching the video I realized he doesn't recommend it. Thanks for correcting me.

 

[Aegis]

I have seen tis problem before also. A round that is out of spec will not fully seat in the chamber/barrel. A good impact on the slide should release the round. It is amazing as to how tightly jammed the round is in the barrel.

 

[Arik]

Just so you know, that's not a catastrophic failure.

Catastrophic failure is when the gun blows up

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[Aegis]

Just so you know, that's not a catastrophic failure.

Catastrophic failure is when the gun blows up

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Agreed that is a serious catastrophic failure...How serious were the injuries..