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While I have a bit of a reputation as a Mall Ninja on some forums, this is my first real black gun. It is true that I bought an AR lower years ago when the Liberals threatened to ban semi-autos (on my birthday no less!) but I never got the upper to complete that gun. So far I have been shooting tactical shotguns and handguns

I thought it would be fun to document the journey of a newbie as it might help others considering getting into AR15s as well.

The journey began at Bulls Eye London, which I visited as part of my gun store tour (posted on my blog and some other forums). I was blown away by their selection but in the end I knew was a serious gap of black guns in my collection so I narrowed down my choices to two, the Tavor and HK MR223





HK MR223



Diopter rear sight



In the end I chose the HK…but I am still committed to getting the Tavor (as well as the Mark 23 SOCOM and maybe even that crazy 460VX revolver with 14” barrel!)



I started buying accessories in anticipation of picking up my gun. First, a Trijicon MRO. I initially planned to get an Aimpoint but after doing lots of research (e.g. youtube videos), I decided on the MRO. I like the ease of adjusting and the larger objective





I also like Trijicon as a company and love the fact that they put bible verses on their sights!

PSA 18:28
You, Lord, keep my lamp burning;
my God turns my darkness into light.



Next BCM foregrip…again, seeing Larry Vickers use one of these in his vids made it a good choice for a mall ninja…I opted for the shorty with storage









My sling (although this did not arrive till after my first range session)..Blue Force Gear Vickers sling, padded with Cobra buckles and RED rapid release (mounted to a Magpul RSA QD rail mount)











More goodies…Caldwell AR Dead Shot rests designed specifically for ARs



Laser boresighter





And various types of ammo



The paperwork went through pretty quickly but I could not get down to Bulls Eye for another month or so.



Yes, I suppose it could have been shipped to me but I wanted to pick it up in person and shoot it at EESA…which is about 30 min from Bulls Eye



I set up my target at 50 yards. I can say right off the bat that the fancy laser boresighter that I got was useless…totally invisible in daylight (which made me rethink my plan of trying to get a DBAL or something similar).







As usual, I started off shooting left…the Trijicon MRO is very easy to adjust but I was wearing dark sunglasses and started turning the adjustment screw the wrong way, making my shots go even further left



I made some adjustments and started tightening my groups



I pretty much stopped there as it was so hot (31 degrees)

The gun functioned flawlessly and wow does it kick out those empties…I would hate to be in the stall next to me lol. I used Hornady TAP ammo and the supplied HK mag. I did also try the Press Check Venture beowolf mag..while it fed ok, it did not eject very freely…certainly it would not be good for fast reloads without some modification.

Some gun pics





A week later I decided to continue the sighting in process, this time indoors so I headed out to Urban Tactical for a quick session.



Ok I guess..the gun clearly shoots better than I do



I am still used to standing with my right leg back and am trying to stand more square..i shortened the LOP to encourage me to do so



My groups did get tighter





Once again, I did not like the Press Check Venture plastic mags…they are easy to load with ammo and feed ok but they just don’t eject easily and as such I wont be using them any more…the steel one is ok.
Aside from that, once again the gun ran flawlessly and stays clean. I will try to get out to the range more regularly.

In the meantime, do you think I should bling it out a bit? I love Steel Flame jewelry and I picked up one of their AR takedown pins.



It looks like this mounted (not my gun)



What say ye?
….ok forget what I said earlier about rethinking a DBAL lol…a friend of mine had one for sale and these are pretty hard to come by in Canada so I jumped on it! And a pre-Steiner one at that!







After posting some pics, I got feedback that I should move my Trijicon further forward to make two eye shooting easier and in case I want to mount a magnifier …and that requires another range trip to site it in again….so off to the Hamilton Angler and Hunting Association. Wow, I cant believe it has been 10 years since the last time I was at HAHA! Ridiculous how time goes by

My original mount



The new position





Sighting out to 50 yards





Well I guess it didn’t need any adjustment after all..the first 5 shots lol





However, this made the DBAL take up even more of the MRO so I moved it to the side..didnt have as much luck with that one in terms of sighting it in..i will have to come back for that

Ok, time to switch to other guns.



As luck would have it, a fellow forumite brought a Desert Tech SRS-A1…and a left handed one too! As you may know, it has interchangeable barrels / calibers and today it was in .338 Lapua..



 

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Nice Nightforce ATACR scope



He generously let me have a shot…i have always wanted to try one and it was SWEET! I don’t have a lot of experience in precision shooting and my test shot was a few inches above the bullseye at 100 yards.





I wont post pics here of all the other guns we shot but I can say all in all a fun day…hopefully it wont be another 10 years before I am back!

…ok more toys…sheesh these ARs are never ending! Lol…a blue gun 416!



Next a Magpukl P-Mag D-60… Oh man this thing looks so awesome in real life!!! The loading system is cool too



unfair advantage,...love that slogan lol



sigh, too bad about our stupid laws...i hate the pin lol









ok removed the pin...with photoshop lol





to my eye, it looks better than conventional mags, like this 30



my magazine collection is growing nicely lol





And OMG I am in love with lula! .i just got the lula magazine loaders and i cant believe that i waited so long to get them...they are AWESOME! seriously last night i scraped together every magazine i could find and loaded all of them...i HIGHLY recommend them… the AR15 version works even better than the handgun version! simply put over your mag, throw in a round and rock the lever on top to insert it in the mag...you can also unload mags in seconds by rocking the lever back and forth









seriously, one of the reasons i held off for so long on AR15s is the 5 round limit but with the availability of pistol and beowolf mags, and now with the maglula, it has increased the AR experience exponentially...i think i have finally moved off of shotguns onto ARs lol

to be continued…
 

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lol...if you cant decide, buy both..that's my philosophy....and since you mention it, here is my favourite Mark23 pic i have ever taken



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I quit reading around the picture with the skull take down pins. Your gun your choice, but please save those for some Palmeto build.
 

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Also, when shooting the rifle, place the FFRS on the shooting bag, not the actual rifle barrel. The barrel is meant to not touch anything when being fired and will be much more accurate that way. In your pics at the range you show the barrel resting on the shooting bag.

And I second the opinion about the skull take down pins. Since you are from Canada, you should have beer can or hockey puck take down pins.

Just sayin'.........eh.
 

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thanks yes..you are not the first person to tell me that about the barrel so i have made that adjustment...i still leave it that way for still shot pics so that the dbal shows better :)

yeah i decided not to put the skull on this one and save it for another build.

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Congratulations on your purchase! Now, I hate to rain on your parade, but could you explain what sense (tactically) does it make to utilize a 60 rounds drum mag pinned down to 5 rounds capacity? Unless, of course, you plan to unpin it as soon as the SHTF ...
 

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lots of questions here...

that particular Mark 23 was at Bullseye Tactical in London Ontario...but i have seen them at other stores as well

well there is no tactical advantage of course to having a pinned 60 round drum..other than it is still hella cool and looks awesome in pics lol....i just like the look and feel of it

yes i have seen the striplula online...i should try it

the Mark23 is high on my list but i really need a bolt action rifle as i dont currently have one. i have mostly shotguns and handguns.
 

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lots of questions here...

that particular Mark 23 was at Bullseye Tactical in London Ontario...but i have seen them at other stores as well

well there is no tactical advantage of course to having a pinned 60 round drum..other than it is still hella cool and looks awesome in pics lol....i just like the look and feel of it

yes i have seen the striplula online...i should try it

the Mark23 is high on my list but i really need a bolt action rifle as i dont currently have one. i have mostly shotguns and handguns.
Thanks--- must keep the data updated!!! :biggrin:

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I almost missed the most important aspect of this thread: It should finally settle the whole discussion that people from the US seem to have about "some German law preventing HK from selling MR223A3/HK243 in the US", as this very Canadian Gentleman is sporting an MR223A3 in.... Canada.

Trade to Canada and USA is practically identical under German law when considering "weapons", so there are only two options: HK USA not wanting to sell G36 Clones and all the other stuff we get in "rest of the world" ->> Heckler & Koch :: Rifles and make more money?!? Or US Import Law.
 

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yes my friend noticed the same thing...why does canada get 223 while us gets 5.56..shouldnt it be the other way around? lol...i am happy we get the "made in germany" guns...but alas, we cannot use 20+ round mags or suppressors...or shoot them outside of an approved range (no hunting) etc etc...

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