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Hello HK community!

This is my first post here and also my first post to any firearm related forum (so go easy on me!).

I had the opportunity to purchase an HK94 converted to a MP5 with a registered sear this past year. At the time I really did not know much about the HK roller lock platforms (I know marginally more now) but I knew enough to know that a registered sear was a good thing. The conversion was done by Ceiner which from what I now understand probably isn't as desireable as a Fleming or a DLO. The gun itself is appears to be in decent shape for it's age. It seems to operate with out any issues. The finish is ok. Ceiner stamped just about every part of the firearm including the upper, lower, trigger pack and sear.

My question is should I take any precautions to protect my investment? I am afraid that something is going to happen to it while shooting it and I am going to end up with an expensive pile of metal parts. I thought about sending it out somewhere to have someone go through it, maybe replace the barrel with a B&T Navy style barrel and having the complete firearm refinished and remarked as a MP5-N. Is this a waste of money? Will it hurt the value more than it helps it?

Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
 

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Welcome & congrats on your first reg sear gun, I had the same great feeling about 5 years back like all of us on here. As for refinishing/remarking the gun it would not hurt it any. I sent my S&H reg sear K gun over to RDTS several years back for a complete look over, retimed hammer & remark/refinish. There are several vendors on here that do just as good of a job, look at Terry Dyer also. The insurance with shipping is what will be the costly part keep I mind (think it cost me $1600 total with everything?)
 

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What a way to start participating in firearm boards, congrats! Desirability is secondary to functionality in my book, so I would say you did great! If its a metal part like that sear, almost anything can be fixed and wear is very marginal. I would say shoot the heck out of it and don't worry. The barrel work is modifying the host weapon; and if it makes it more fun and/or more functional to use, I'd say go for it. As long as you get a good smith to do the work it would likely increase the hosts value.
 

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Welcome & congrats on your first reg sear gun, I had the same great feeling about 5 years back like all of us on here. As for refinishing/remarking the gun it would not hurt it any. I sent my S&H reg sear K gun over to RDTS several years back for a complete look over, retimed hammer & remark/refinish. There are several vendors on here that do just as good of a job, look at Terry Dyer also. The insurance with shipping is what will be the costly part keep I mind (think it cost me $1600 total with everything?)
Thank you for the warm welcome! How important is the timing of the hammer? The reason I ask is that I bought an Omega MP5K as a host gun but I couldn't get it to run on full auto. I was wondering if the timing of the hammer could be part of the problem? I basically swapped the trigger pack from the MP5 to the MP5K but I used the selector switch from the MP5K (it seemed to fit better) which I also thought could be the problem even though it is a 3 position lower the same as my MP5.

RDTS is one of the vendors that I found in my Google searches. Sounds like you were pleased with thier work.
 

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On a sear gun very important, my K gun ran a little quicker before the retimed hammer (Michael Machine's retimed hammer) is what is installed currently and slowed down the ROF marginally. I would send the whole gun off if it were me, post a few pics also of the markings.
 

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Ciener's sear might only work with the carrier he welded up when converting the 94. Makers back then did not have access to factory parts like we do today.

Might have to get a K carrier modded specifically for that sear pack.

Reach out to Michael's machines, IGF, RDTS, PCS, etc and see what's possible.

Above all, enjoy.
 

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All I have on me right now is the crappy pic I took last year when I first went to look at the gun. I have since changed out the forearm to a HK parts keymod style and added a B&T folding stock. Trigger Revolver
 

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What a way to start participating in firearm boards, congrats! Desirability is secondary to functionality in my book, so I would say you did great! If its a metal part like that sear, almost anything can be fixed and wear is very marginal. I would say shoot the heck out of it and don't worry. The barrel work is modifying the host weapon; and if it makes it more fun and/or more functional to use, I'd say go for it. As long as you get a good smith to do the work it would likely increase the hosts value.
It's good to know that if something gets FUBAR that it can be repaired. I have bought a few firearms since the 2013 panic but nothing of this magnitude. This was a big investment on my part and to be honest I was a little bit scared when I pulled the trigger. I bought it and a AC556 in a combo deal from my Brother inlaw whose father had passed away and left them to him and his Sister. They preferred to have the cash rather than the guns. I spend a lot of time lurking on gun forums (daily) and have been a little bit hesitant to put myself out there to actually post (tinfoil hat type paranoia) something on one of them.
 

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Thanks for the pic--- the barrel appears not to be a 3-lug or threaded!!! :biggrin:

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It's threaded 1/2- 28 with a flash hider on it which is why I was interested in the 5-N barrel. I like that set up on the Omega 5k I bought. For now I have a three lug adapter I got from HKparts for it. I also purchased a Gemtech Raptor II for a dedicated 3 lug subgun suppressor. That one should be getting out of Jail anytime now.
 

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Ciener's sear might only work with the carrier he welded up when converting the 94. Makers back then did not have access to factory parts like we do today.

Might have to get a K carrier modded specifically for that sear pack.

Reach out to Michael's machines, IGF, RDTS, PCS, etc and see what's possible.

Above all, enjoy.
Thank you for the heads up on the carrier. I really do need to send it to someone who knows what they are doing so that I know exactly what I am dealing with. I am also interested in procuring a HK93 so that I can have a 5.56 host. I guess I would have to possibly modify the carrier on the as well to get it to work?
 

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Thank you for the heads up on the carrier. I really do need to send it to someone who knows what they are doing so that I know exactly what I am dealing with. I am also interested in procuring a HK93 so that I can have a 5.56 host. I guess I would have to possibly modify the carrier on the as well to get it to work?
Congrats on the aquisition and welcome. All the previous vendors mentioned are well prepared to do any work necessary - I would also recommend checking out TSC Machine in Ruther Glen, VA. Mike and Tammy Woodward are 1st class.
 

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It's threaded 1/2- 28 with a flash hider on it which is why I was interested in the 5-N barrel. I like that set up on the Omega 5k I bought. For now I have a three lug adapter I got from HKparts for it. I also purchased a Gemtech Raptor II for a dedicated 3 lug subgun suppressor. That one should be getting out of Jail anytime now.
Excellent!!! :biggrin:

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It's good to know that if something gets FUBAR that it can be repaired. I have bought a few firearms since the 2013 panic but nothing of this magnitude. This was a big investment on my part and to be honest I was a little bit scared when I pulled the trigger. I bought it and a AC556 in a combo deal from my Brother inlaw whose father had passed away and left them to him and his Sister. They preferred to have the cash rather than the guns. I spend a lot of time lurking on gun forums (daily) and have been a little bit hesitant to put myself out there to actually post (tinfoil hat type paranoia) something on one of them.
There's almost nothing you could do just shooting it that would make it worthless. Barrels can be replaced, heck, there are people that can take demilled chunks of receiver that were torch cut, and weld them back into functional firearms. So go shoot the thing! And remarking it to MP5-N won't affect the value at all. All the money is in the sear, which has value only due to the piece of paper with the little blue stamp on it.
 

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Welcome aboard.

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Look them up here on the Forum, then come to class and learn about how to use that beauty.
 
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