[rtmst3k]

Hi all, I purchased a VP9 from what I believe to be the original shipments from HK - I understand that improvements have probably been made over time but I was wondering if owners had run into any serious issues that were later addressed from the original batches?

thanks
J.

 

[Crashmc]

All that I'm aware of is going to a stronger RSA in '015 I believe . Other than that , none that I'm aware of change wise .[/QUOTE]

 

[RetropM]

You say that you believe it to be one of the originals; a quick check of the date code on the gun will help narrow that down.

The recoil assembly was swapped for the heavier .40 version as mentioned above, whether or not it's an improvement depends on who you ask. The other change was the trigger bar spring assembly due to some adhesive failures with the early models but by all accounts that's only an issue if it is damaged during improper disassembly/reassembly of that specific part, which is something that should only be done by an armorer anyways.

Despite what some people say, the VP9 is a phenomenal pistol and is on-par with the other modern HK pistols.

 

[bobsguns]

I'm old & forget stuff, but I recall the original trigger pull left a LOT to be desired. I know I was flabbergasted (to use an old fashioned word) when I dry fired the VP9SK & VP9L before I bought them years later.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong here.

 

[Crashmc]

I'm old & forget stuff, but I recall the original trigger pull left a LOT to be desired. I know I was flabbergasted (to use an old fashioned word) when I dry fired the VP9SK & VP9L before I bought them years later.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong here.

You're wrong . Read the articles that reviewed the VP9 when it came out . Read the American Rifleman article from the NRA I believe ,

 

[grumpy1]

I'm old & forget stuff, but I recall the original trigger pull left a LOT to be desired. I know I was flabbergasted (to use an old fashioned word) when I dry fired the VP9SK & VP9L before I bought them years later.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong here.

I bought mine about 6 months after it came out and the trigger is great on it. Never heard of what you mentioned, Maybe you are thinking about the original M&P trigger.

 

[impretzle]

I'm old & forget stuff, but I recall the original trigger pull left a LOT to be desired. I know I was flabbergasted (to use an old fashioned word) when I dry fired the VP9SK & VP9L before I bought them years later.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong here.

I bought a vp9 when they first came out. The trigger had a noticeable false reset issue. I have since sold the pistol because of it.

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[Crashmc]

I bought a vp9 when they first came out. The trigger had a noticeable false reset issue. I have since sold the pistol because of it.

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The first i've heard of that . Do you have evidence to back up your statement ?

 

[Mawashi]

You're wrong . Read the articles that reviewed the VP9 when it came out . Read the American Rifleman article from the NRA I believe ,

You are correct. I shot the snot out of one of the first 150 imported starting in I believe 2014, and it was as good as newer ones. It had a good trigger to begin with and as with all things HK (and others) got really good with use. It also had (of course) the original recoil spring (no issues) and I shot almost exclusively 115gr. aluminum cased ammo (also no issue) because it was cheaper and I liked to eat as well as shoot. And no it isn’t like putting high quality gas in a sports car....I wanted to put as many rounds as possible through the gun and the gun had no issues at all with that plan. No 124gr. break in, no nothing. I did change the RSA on the 5ks. The second and subsequent RSAs were of the VP40 (also a great .40) type. I wasn’t only shooting 500 rounds a year and I didn’t have a trust fund. If I could get my hands on it and it resembled 9mm I shot it lol (it was all factory 9mm fmj or carry types/no reloads). I also dry fired it....a lot. No issues at all. Great gun and good to carry for whatever. 👍
Another great gun nobody talks about (or asked about lol) is the VP40. Some guns handle .40 great...USP and P229 come to mind (not counting 40oz plus guns). The VP40 is in that company as far as managing the .40.

 

[Cslinger]

I owned an “OG” VP9 and while I didn’t love it and it certainly needed RSA tweaking the trigger wasn’t bad at all. I mean not PPQ good but certainly not bad by any stretch.

 

[Mawashi]

I owned an “OG” VP9 and while I didn’t love it and it certainly needed RSA tweaking the trigger wasn’t bad at all. I mean not PPQ good but certainly not bad by any stretch.

Respect your opinion. The VP trigger has things I like over the PPQ but Walther nailed the break and reset. There isn’t much PPQ good in this $600ish polymer category. Not turning it into a versus but there are other characteristics (besides the trigger) of the VP I prefer to the Walther, especially shooting at speed. High mileage VPs narrow the trigger gap even more. Still...if you can’t hit with the VP’s trigger....it’s you. Lol....but serious..
All IMO.
I am curious about “RSA tweaking”. Did you have a problem with the RSA/VP?

 

[bobsguns]

I bought mine about 6 months after it came out and the trigger is great on it. Never heard of what you mentioned, Maybe you are thinking about the original M&P trigger.

Could be. I bought a M&P when they came out, did the Apex trigger kit swap & then sold it off w/o firing a single shot out of it.

But the VP9 trigger still sticks in my mind. Could've been a pre-production model I saw at a SHOT show or something? But there was something about that first gen VP9 that turned me off immediately, I can't recall exactly what. Otherwise, I would've bought it on the spot, IMO.

 

[Cslinger]

The early guns were super easy to push out of battery and could sometimes not want to return to battery. Mine had a bit of this going on. Early teething problems with the gun that HK addressed like forever ago.

 

[Mawashi]

The early guns were super easy to push out of battery and could sometimes not want to return to battery. Mine had a bit of this going on. Early teething problems with the gun that HK addressed like forever ago.

Interesting. I never had a problem with that extremely early one coming out of or returning to battery. Then again it only had its original RSA for the first 5K rounds. Might have had that type issue with it if it got 10K-ish don’t know. Was your round count very high?

 

[impretzle]

The first i've heard of that . Do you have evidence to back up your statement ?

I'm not sure I can provide "proof" other than my own observation. I no longer own the pistol so cant make a video.

At the time there were others posting about it too. A quick Google of "vp9 false trigger reset" returns a lot results. Something about an out of spec part.

Believe me, I drink the Kool aid like everyone else here so it was very difficult to admit that I just didn't like it.

I would consider getting a new one because it sounds like some changes have been made over the years.

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[Cslinger]

Interesting. I never had a problem with that extremely early one coming out of or returning to battery. Then again it only had its original RSA for the first 5K rounds. Might have had that type issue with it if it got 10K-ish don’t know. Was your round count very high?

Low round count. I saw it / had it happen on 3 or 4 of the early guns. Mine and some other folks I handled. Like I said these were basically release batch so it may have been very limited or a bad batch of springs or whatever. I just know that one of the first things I noticed was after years and years of damn near over sprung/robust HK RSA’s the VP9 felt crazy light weight in comparison.

I sold mine before the recoil spring change. Just never gelled with it. Nothing really wrong with it except the RSA issue for me just never scratched the itch for me and I just preferred other striker platforms.

Years later I did get run a VP9SK and that was a GREAT shooting gun. Trigger, the way it cycled, accuracy etc. I liked it far more than my full size I had.

 

[RetropM]

Years later I did get run a VP9SK and that was a GREAT shooting gun. Trigger, the way it cycled, accuracy etc. I liked it far more than my full size I had.

The VP9sk is magic, I am honestly shocked that it doesn't get more love around here. It is hands-down a better shooter than the P30sk IMO. I actually tried replacing my VP9sk with a P30sk at one point and ended up ditching the P30sk and keeping the VP9sk.