The P2000 has a standard accessory rail, user changeable backstraps, ambi slide release....
P2000 / USP compact?
I have done the compare on the H&K site and I can not understand why the P2000 exists. They appear to be almost identical. Can someone explain the difference?
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I've owned both. USP feels clunky to the hand compared to the P2000 but the USP has a much better trigger. i prefer the full size USP to either.
You have to understand that in the past, and maybe still so, HK built guns for specific govt contracts and subsequently sold them to the public, not for the civilian market with the hopes they would get big govt contracts, which is opposite of what most other companies do.
It was built for a contract for an entity which did not want the USPc. The P2000 is a small step forward from the USP series. It was one of the first 21st century polymer pistols that incorporate features that are only now becoming standard.
I look at the P2K as a more "refined" option.
The P2K is also 100% ambidextrous while the USPc has no controls on the "off" side. USPc can be carried C&L (depending on set-up) while the P2K has no safety option so you're DA/SA or LEM and the P2K has a slightly longer barrel/slide/sight radius. USPc IMHO does have a nicer trigger as the P series reset is overly long (this can be fixed by throwing money at the problem). The P2K is also a few ounces lighter than the USPc.
Chuck
The P2K is also 100% ambidextrous while the USPc has no controls on the "off" side. USPc can be carried C&L (depending on set-up) while the P2K has no safety option so you're DA/SA or LEM and the P2K has a slightly longer barrel/slide/sight radius. USPc IMHO does have a nicer trigger as the P series reset is overly long (this can be fixed by throwing money at the problem). The P2K is also a few ounces lighter than the USPc.
Chuck
Thanks for explaining this! Which makes perfect sense.....You have to understand that in the past, and maybe still so, HK built guns for specific govt contracts and subsequently sold them to the public, not for the civilian market with the hopes they would get big govt contracts, which is opposite of what most other companies do.
FWIW, I own both. The USPc in 45 with the safety /decocker and the p2000v3 40s&w. I carry the p2000 because it's more ergonomical and lighter, the USPc is for HD. One isn't better than the other, just personal preference.
I have them both and there is not a bad gun in either. However I sent my P2K LEM to Bill Springfield 9 years ago and the darn thin is on my hip most of the time. I've gone through all of Ayoob's schools, Tom Givins schools, and Marty Hayes schools with the darn thing and have had only 2-3 malfunctions traced to ammo.
I've owned both and prefer the P2K grip over the USPc. Being completely ambidextrous, while not a must, certainly helps
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Both are great! I would try to find a dealer to test them on a firing range.
The P2000 is the G19 in HK's lineup. It's not superb at any one thing, but it does everything pretty well.
Better trigger - advantage USPUSPc > P2000!!! :biggrin:
Tony
Ergos - advantage P2000
Price - advantage P2000, so...
P2000 >>>USP
I have 2 USPc's in .45 and 1 USP in 9mm and I absolutely love'em!
I don't have a P2000 as of yet but notice that it has the same grip as my 45c. I definitely plan on adding one to the family.
I don't have a P2000 as of yet but notice that it has the same grip as my 45c. I definitely plan on adding one to the family.
Fixed it for you!!! :biggrin:Better trigger - advantage USP
Ergos - advantage USP
Price - advantage P2000, so...
USP >>> P2000
Tony
This is not true. Whilst fit is highly personal ( USP fits me perfectly, P2000 does not fit well ), many complain the grip of the P2000 is slippery.Ergos - advantage P2000
The Ergonomics of the P2000 is in fact the only thing preventing me from buying one.
As for the price point, the USP is tougher and re selling it, one can actually make money on it.
Full of win.
^^100% correct, ergos are entirely subjective… I like the USP ergonomics personally. Never owned P2000 but it feels good just handling it at the shop… P2000 is next on my list of must haves.
They are both great guns. The P2K is supposedly an "updated" version of the USP, having a modular grip and having ambidextrous controls. That being said, I bought a P2K late last year and just put a USPc on layaway a few days ago. I like them both, so I had to have both. While the USP may not be completely ambidextrous like the P2K, the safety/decocker is reversible on the USP variants that use it. If you use the slingshot method for chambering a round, it eliminates the need for using a slide release to drop the slide. I'm right-handed myself, so the ambidexterity of the P2K vs the USP is lost on me.
Each to their own I guess. The USP feels way too blocky in my medium sized hands as opposed to the P2000(and P2000sk). Am still looking at possibly purchasing another one as the USP prices are dropping down to almost the same as the P2000 series in many LGS in my area, and the internet as well... please explain your comment about the USP being tougher concerning the price point...you lost me on that one.This is not true. Whilst fit is highly personal ( USP fits me perfectly, P2000 does not fit well ), many complain the grip of the P2000 is slippery.
The Ergonomics of the P2000 is in fact the only thing preventing me from buying one.
As for the price point, the USP is tougher and re selling it, one can actually make money on it.
Full of win.
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