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Alright, I'm in the middle of a 9mm identity crisis.
I like both Glock and HK, and currently own a G17 and a USP9f for my 9mm lineup.
I am selling my USP9F, and keeping the G17. My plan is to add a G19 to my 9mm lineup, and keep all my 9mm's Glock.
My rationale for dumping the USP was quite simple.
- I shoot both the Glock and the USP well. My HK groups tighter, but I have more experience with HK in general, and the difference isn't that great anyways.
- I hate the UTL, and any other light on the USP makes finding a holster impossible, especially since I require a consistent trigger pull on a firearm (try finding a cocked and locked 6004 for a USP with anything other than a UTL on it...)
- Bore axis- I'm still plenty fast with the USP, but I will take any mechanical advantage I can get.
- Magazine release- this is a BIG one. I have to shift my grip on the USP, where I do not on the Glock.
However, this is where I started thinking about the P30. I have held one, and it is with no doubt an amazing feeling handgun. Currently, it is only available in DA/SA, but from what I have read here, a few P2000 LEM parts, and you have an LEM P30.
So...I already decided that the HK USP 9F is going to go, but now I am stuck in a HK P30 "LEM" VS Glock mindset, because of what I noticed in the gunshop, and here as well.
- The new HK's seem to have a lower bore axis (when compared to the USP), is this correct?
- The P30 magazine release is in a location that allows me to hit it quickly without shifting my grip.
- The light rail is standard, and LEM hammers are bobbed. Chances are a Holster will be made that will allow various lights, etc. And I wont have to worry about tracking down a "condition one" holster like I did for my USP.
Here is what I am thinking- the P30 is a great size, and has plenty of capacity. I am thinking I MIGHT sell both my USP9F and my Glock 17. Forget the Glock 19, and make my only 9mm a P30 LEM model.
However, if I am going to take this plunge and abandon the USP AND Glock platform, theres a few things I need to know from HK LEM AND P30 shooters...
1- How is the reset compared to Glock on a P2000 LEM (or on a P30 for those who have made the conversion?)
2- How is the bore axis of the P30 in comparison to Glock? I'm not necessarily concerned about measurements, I'm more worried about follow up shots and sight recovery.
Since the P30 would be replacing my USP9F and my Glock, I am just wanting to make sure that I am not giving anything up by switching to not only the P30 platform, but also the LEM.
What do you guys think?
I like both Glock and HK, and currently own a G17 and a USP9f for my 9mm lineup.
I am selling my USP9F, and keeping the G17. My plan is to add a G19 to my 9mm lineup, and keep all my 9mm's Glock.
My rationale for dumping the USP was quite simple.
- I shoot both the Glock and the USP well. My HK groups tighter, but I have more experience with HK in general, and the difference isn't that great anyways.
- I hate the UTL, and any other light on the USP makes finding a holster impossible, especially since I require a consistent trigger pull on a firearm (try finding a cocked and locked 6004 for a USP with anything other than a UTL on it...)
- Bore axis- I'm still plenty fast with the USP, but I will take any mechanical advantage I can get.
- Magazine release- this is a BIG one. I have to shift my grip on the USP, where I do not on the Glock.
However, this is where I started thinking about the P30. I have held one, and it is with no doubt an amazing feeling handgun. Currently, it is only available in DA/SA, but from what I have read here, a few P2000 LEM parts, and you have an LEM P30.
So...I already decided that the HK USP 9F is going to go, but now I am stuck in a HK P30 "LEM" VS Glock mindset, because of what I noticed in the gunshop, and here as well.
- The new HK's seem to have a lower bore axis (when compared to the USP), is this correct?
- The P30 magazine release is in a location that allows me to hit it quickly without shifting my grip.
- The light rail is standard, and LEM hammers are bobbed. Chances are a Holster will be made that will allow various lights, etc. And I wont have to worry about tracking down a "condition one" holster like I did for my USP.
Here is what I am thinking- the P30 is a great size, and has plenty of capacity. I am thinking I MIGHT sell both my USP9F and my Glock 17. Forget the Glock 19, and make my only 9mm a P30 LEM model.
However, if I am going to take this plunge and abandon the USP AND Glock platform, theres a few things I need to know from HK LEM AND P30 shooters...
1- How is the reset compared to Glock on a P2000 LEM (or on a P30 for those who have made the conversion?)
2- How is the bore axis of the P30 in comparison to Glock? I'm not necessarily concerned about measurements, I'm more worried about follow up shots and sight recovery.
Since the P30 would be replacing my USP9F and my Glock, I am just wanting to make sure that I am not giving anything up by switching to not only the P30 platform, but also the LEM.
What do you guys think?