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I called a dealer today to enquire about a p30 and he stated that he had one with “rechargeable night sights.” Can someone please explain what these are and how functional they are compared to normal radioactive night sights?

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Interesting... P30 owners, how do you like the sights? Are they bright? Any thoughts in general?

i justy charged mine for a few soconds with my 6P, then cut the lights out. they are pretty bright initially, but the charge slowly fades.
 

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i justy charged mine for a few soconds with my 6P, then cut the lights out. they are pretty bright initially, but the charge slowly fades.
Supposedly, you can charge them for 30 seconds with a flashlight, and they'll glow for "up to 2 hours", but obviously getting fainter as time goes on.

That just doesn't sound like a good idea to me if you had to use it in an emergency situation. Especially in light of the fact that the real tritium night sights are cost prohibitive by any means.
 

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Don't you mean that real night sights are not cost prohibitive?

I don't see a reason for these sights, either. Either have real Tritium NS on your weapon or regular sights, but "rechargeable" night sights seem to serve no real need/purpose.

That just doesn't sound like a good idea to me...Especially in light of the fact that the real tritium night sights are cost prohibitive by any means.
 

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From HK's website:

"The pistol has a square notch rear sight and post type front sight. The long glowing (non-radioactive) contrast points allow the shooter a rapid target acquisition, even under unfavorable lighting conditions."

I think the material is super luminova. Same stuff I have on my Panerai watch.
 

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I don't see a reason for these sights, either. Either have real Tritium NS on your weapon or regular sights, but "rechargeable" night sights seem to serve no real need/purpose.
Superluminova is a patented type of light crystal pigment – a phosophorous pigment that uses anorganic aluminum oxide crystals. Unlike tritium, superluminova does not have a radioactive half-life, which means that it won't go dim after 12 years or so. When fully charged, superluminova is also brighter than tritium. The downside is that a) it needs to be charged in the first place and b) the level of brightness begins to degrade almost immediately. The brightness halves in 10 minutes and quarters in only 30 minutes (assuming you start out with a fully charged lume). The glow disappears completely after about 8 hours.
 

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So, if you carry the weapon all day and you started with a full charge. Then at dusk it would be the dimmiest of your end of shift. I will have to say that doesn't make must sence!!! TJ
 

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"The brightness halves in 10 minutes and quarters in only 30 minutes (assuming you start out with a fully charged lume). "

That does not sound like a sight you could count on. Why the shift away from tritium sights, is there some danger I don't know about? H&K must have a good reason for this move.
 

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Don't you mean that real night sights are not cost prohibitive?

I don't see a reason for these sights, either. Either have real Tritium NS on your weapon or regular sights, but "rechargeable" night sights seem to serve no real need/purpose.
Pfffft. Funny how one tiny word changes the whole meaning.

Yes, I meant NOT cost prohibitive.

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"The brightness halves in 10 minutes and quarters in only 30 minutes (assuming you start out with a fully charged lume). "

That does not sound like a sight you could count on. Why the shift away from tritium sights, is there some danger I don't know about? H&K must have a good reason for this move.
My guess is the almighty dollar. A dab or two of photoluminescent paint is a lot cheaper than true night sights.
 

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I have no doubt that Superluminova does what is claimed.

However I still see no need for Superluminova sights on a firearm. If you have them on your weapon, and find yourself in a situation where you need the use of your firearm at night do you just hope that your sights are charged and luminous? Or would you rather have a Tritium night sighted weapon under those circumstances?

Superluminova is a patented type of light crystal pigment – a phosophorous pigment that uses anorganic aluminum oxide crystals. Unlike tritium, superluminova does not have a radioactive half-life, which means that it won't go dim after 12 years or so. When fully charged, superluminova is also brighter than tritium. The downside is that a) it needs to be charged in the first place and b) the level of brightness begins to degrade almost immediately. The brightness halves in 10 minutes and quarters in only 30 minutes (assuming you start out with a fully charged lume). The glow disappears completely after about 8 hours.
 

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So, if you carry the weapon all day and you started with a full charge. Then at dusk it would be the dimmiest of your end of shift. I will have to say that doesn't make must sence!!! TJ
If you have a bright portable flashlight, you can recharge it in about a minute.

My guess is that superluminova sights are meant to replace standard white dot sights rather than tritiums and that real night sights will still be available. Lume sights might be a good option for people who generally don't need the glow in the dark feature but may want to have such capability "just in case".
 

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If you have a bright portable flashlight, you can recharge it in about a minute.

My guess is that superluminova sights are meant to replace standard white dot sights rather than tritiums and that real night sights will still be available. Lume sights might be a good option for people who generally don't need the glow in the dark feature but may want to have such capability "just in case".
+1...I think you got it right...I don't think anyone is having to pay extra cost for these sights. It is just a different standard sight than the white dots. I don't think they are trying to run the tritium sight makers out of business with them =O)
 

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Well it is the standard set of sites for the german pistol. Unless I am grossly missinformed German law prohibits the ownership of most radio active materials - including tritium. So it isn't like they are trying to sell you cheap night sites - it is just the base configuration.
 

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Well it is the standard set of sites for the german pistol. Unless I am grossly missinformed German law prohibits the ownership of most radio active materials - including tritium. So it isn't like they are trying to sell you cheap night sites - it is just the base configuration.
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Those sights just replace regular white dot sights, while pistols are not delivered with "evil radioactive sights that kill children and promotes cancer after 1 second of looking on them". Remeber tha EU is mostly run by socialists and eco-terrorists. For my P30, as soon as regular night sights will be avaiable, I'll install them. Then P30 will go as my second CCW. Becouse as for now I can't see how I can charge Superluminova with gun concealed in IWB holster.
 

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My concern for people who carry this pistol on duty in open carry is that the rear sight will always be getting some light shined on it even in lighted enviroment on 3rd watch, but the front sight being covered by the holster will get little to no light. So what happens when the pistol is needed and all that can be seen are the lighted dots on the rear sight? I'ld just rather have regular steel sights myself.
 
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