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So I bought a police issue PSP (18xxx) a month or so ago and have been fawning over it since then. Admiring the subtle plum hue of the slide, trying not to squeeze it too many time, etc. Yesterday I took it out to the range for the first time. I shot 100 rounds through it after warming up with my Ruger MkII.

It did not disappoint. The first thing I did notice was the stiff recoil and louder report. This surprised me especially after reading about how soft people usually find it. It actually tenderized the web of my hand pretty well by the end, to the point where I didn't find it much more comfortable to shoot than a .380 Bodyguard. I'm not sure if I need a new recoil spring? Also the web of my hand was black, perhaps from oil. I cleaned it with MPro7 about a week earlier. Also my first couple groups were absolutely abysmal. At 10 yards, with targets printed on standard printer paper, I missed the paper altogether a few times. This was pretty disappointing given all I had read, and I figured it was probably a problem on my end. So I mixed a couple snap caps in my mags (the best investment I've ever made - snap caps have improved my accuracy quite a bit) and found that I was pulling on the trigger too much and dropping shots. The P7 seems more sensitive to pulling, especially compared to my Sig P229 Combat, the only other 9mm I own. Perhaps the geometry/balance. Once I concentrated on not pulling on it, my groups got a lot better. Like a lot lot better. I went from missing the paper on a few shot to hitting mostly in the black and then to having nice, tight groups in only few mags. Even my rapid fire at 7 yards managed to land all serious shots on a smallish target. Scary accurate. And I feel that I've taken it's lessons to heart, so thanks HK.
Also, I don't know where all this it's-to-hot business comes from. It maybe got a little warmer than usual, but nothing remotely uncomfortable.

Anyways, I like it and am looking forward to carrying it when the holster comes.
 

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Don't be disappointed. They do take some getting used to. I have a few Ruger 22s & a full on steel challenge Ruger Mark clone. Volquartsen & tac solutions. Shoot your 22s last! Don't start off wth your target 22s. Everything after recoils more & the triggers suck.
You have a P7. Take her out. Just the 2 of you. One on one time. Get to know her. Take your time.
Your hands will get dirty & a little hot. It will all be worth it.
 

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Definitely not disappointed, the groups I was getting after I got used to it were better than I had imagined. And the time that took for that to happen was surprisingly short.
 

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once you have shot a p7 series pistol it will ruin most other pistols...... just saying. thanks for the report always love hearing about someone else shooting a p7 for the first time.
 

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Try replacing the main spring. You should be able to buy one for around $25. I would also recommend staying away from +P ammo and any ammo over 130 grains.
 

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I wouldn't call the P7's recoil harsh, but it isn't exactly soft either. It has a snappiness that stood out to me the first time I fired one.

I've never had a problem with the heat issue either.
 

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Harsh recoil MIGHT indicate an out of spec/ worn piston.
It seems to be in pretty decent shape. Has some holster wear and wear on squeeze cocker. But if this is the case, what can I do about it? Besides the springs, what major parts can be replaced? I'm probably going to post pictures soon to ask for some tips on conditioning.

Also I will likely replace the main spring soon as well.
 

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It seems to be in pretty decent shape. Has some holster wear and wear on squeeze cocker. But if this is the case, what can I do about it? Besides the springs, what major parts can be replaced? I'm probably going to post pictures soon to ask for some tips on conditioning.

Also I will likely replace the main spring soon as well.
what i would do is sent to james ( marine0303) on this board he is the one that serviced all my p7 systems he specializes in the p7 p9 platforms he will give it a full going over and ship it back to you quickly and in perfect running condition
 

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Yep, gotta hold and shoot the P7 just a little different than other guns because the recoil is more linear that rotating the muzzle upwards. If you compensate for how other guns move, you'll miss, as you found.

Harsh recoil MIGHT indicate an out of spec/ worn piston.
what i would do is sent to james ( marine0303) on this board he is the one that serviced all my p7 systems he specializes in the p7 p9 platforms he will give it a full going over and ship it back to you quickly and in perfect running condition
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Assuming the piston is in spec, how soft or harsh anything shoots also depends on the ammo. I know from trying out various reloads that both my CCP and P7 dislike the hottest stuff. Increase in recoil until at a certain point, it jumps from slightly more recoil to almost painful, I'm guessing because at that point it's too much for the recoil mitigation system (recoil spring and gas cylinder) and the slide's bottoming out. Almost like going over increasingly large bumps in the car: you feel it but the suspension soaks it up...until it bottoms out.
 
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