[snowgun8]

What's going on fellows/Gals

I am new to this site and figure I would throw out a problem searching for a solution.

For a long time I have wanted a "squeeze cocker" P7 M8. I had a chance many years ago to acquire one but passed. Now I have the bug again but don't know what to buy and how much to spend.

Probably use it as a shooter or carry pistol. Not too worried about the price and willing to pay a slight premium-but don't want to be raped off either.

Now here is what I know-Or think I know.

Developed for German Police after 72 Munich Olympics massacre
Was originally called a PSP and had the mag eject on the butt. Also German writing only.
Stopped being produced in 2007
Some years had a "fat trigger"

Was modified for the U.S. market and the mag release was moved.

Stamped with Chantilly, VA
Stamped with Alabama

There is a PSP (orig police issue) , P7M8 (8 shot), P7M10 (10 shot)which may be a 40 Cal version, A nickel plated version, a 13 cap double stack mag P7M13

From what I understand Many PSP became available sometime ago and made their way to the U.S.

Ok Gun broker has a few ranging from P7M8 in blue finish/2 mags $2500.00 to the Nickel plated $4500.00 That is insane and I would never pay that nor would anyone else I suspect. That's why they are still available.

I found a unit at a local store for $1500.00 Its shows signs of wear has orig box with only one mag. Its not in pristine condition by any stretch. I could send it out to be blued or nickel for $500.00 but will that just make it look pretty an possibly devalue the piece?

I am not necessarily looking for a collectors gun to sit in a safe but I'm also not willing to throw away a bunch of money on a bastardized rat. I like my stuff to be in nice condition.

I would by a Junker for a 700-grand or one in good shape for 1500-1800.00

What is the breakdown of the guns from least to most desirable along with estimated costs/value?

Where should I be looking and who will not take advantage of me.

Thank you so much:

 

[Lamont]

Because you are new it hasn't occurred to you that virtually everyone here already knows the history of this gun.......

There are no junker P7M8's. You are not getting any P7 series gun for $700 unless you own or have access to a time machine. $1800 would really be entry level for an M8, and not a bad price, you should take that one.

On GB, it's not what guns are advertised for, it's what they have sold for. Do a search of completed auctions only and you should have a few real world prices to go from.

Good Luck.

 

[Clausewitz]

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[Clausewitz]

You just need to buy what you can find at a price you can live with.

If you are interested in the history of the gun, the search function here will work wonders.

 

[bastardsonofelvis]

If you found a M8 in working condition for $1500 you're foolish not to jump on it. You're very unlikely to find one cheaper. If you're looking for something in collectable condition you're probably looking at a $2500-$3000 price tag for something in LNIB condition. There is somewhat of a hierarchy regarding date codes and importation marks, with Chantilly pistols usually being favored followed by Sterlings and finally Trussvilles. Those are commercially imported guns. Then there are the police trade ins.

My recommendation would be to simply search P7M8 on this site and spend a few hrs reading...after you go buy that M8 for $1500. Thank me later.

 

[sean415]

The P7 and P7M8 are both 8 rounds but the P7M8 has a heat shield

$1500 for an m8 is a great price

 

[AGG]

Welcome to the site--- let us know if you acquire it--- and pics!!! :biggrin:

Tony

 

[Leperchuan0311]

if you dont wanna buy it please pm me the store so i can buy it

 

[snowgun8]

Thank you for the insight.
I apologize for the history of the gun I spewed.
I really was checking the accuracyof the story and hope it was not condescending.

That being said: if the unit is a variant with the mag release on the heel is that still considered a P7M8?

Is it worth getting it refinished or will that devalue the gun.

Thanks

 

[bastardsonofelvis]

if the unit is a variant with the mag release on the heel is that still considered a P7M8?

No. P7M8s only have the mag release just under the trigger guard like most modern HKs.

Is it worth getting it refinished or will that devalue the gun.

Thanks

That depends on the condition the gun is already in and your definition of 'value'.

 

[WebStrands]

Heel magazine release would mean P7 PSP, not a P7M8. Does it have a narrow release or a wide release? That would dial it in better.

 

[scottinthegrove]

Since I'm not a P7 guy, I don't have further insight specific to the model. But generically, the original finish will bring higher collector value than a refinish. When it comes to resale, the guys willing to pay a premium for condition, need it to be original condition. The guys looking for a "shooter" tend not to give anything for refinish. It would be your firearm. If you want to spend that money on refinish, it will be for your preference. Odds are you'll send that money for you but won't get much back at resale. Like putting aftermarket wheels on your car, at trade in time you might actually get less money for the car with aftermarket wheels than you would with the standard wheels. But if you like the look, spend the money for you.

Personally, I'm more of a Mark 23 kind of guy. But I'm starting to have some interest in the VP9 tactical model that has the threaded barrel. The P7 is cool, but has really transitioned to more of a collector's model to me. As stated previously, the gun went out of production 10 years ago. Parts will get harder to find over time. To me firearms are more of a tool than a collector's item. But I do own a couple of collector type firearms. Those firearms have more of a family connection than something I bought to put away. Good luck on the P7 hunt.

Scott

 

[SouthstarJeff]

I have my P7m8 with James now for service, refinishing and new night sights, really looking forward to the results


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