Thinking about buying one, has been on my want list ever since a purchased my M13, that was a long time ago. If the HK45 doesn't get bought first. Anyway, I have seen them (M8) at the gun shows and on gunbroker for around $800. Prices seem kind of low, compared to what I am used to seeing for these. Are they some kind of police trade in's or refurbs? Just seeing what all of you know....thanks.