thanks for the reply, but the other party and i decided we cant agree. i was going to trade my 1911 for his usp and he was asking for $200 plus my pistol that included 4 mags, 3 sets of grips 3 holsters and factory night sights. his included 2 mags and the case and 1 holster... i then pointed out the msrp difference in my favor which he did not like.. oh well, i still love my 1911 and still get to shoot it. probably wait til i get my taxes back and go get a tactical 45.