The PORT ammop from samco is slightly oxidized from the cardboard, but works and shoots more accurate than most m-80 ball. I have plenty of it. Wideners has some FN for $88 /200 rnds. Go to cheaper than dirt and get the 150gr BVAC reloads. $116 deliverd for 250rnds. They shoot very accurate and are loaded on once fired LC brass. VERY good clean stuff and its on par with my HIRTENBERGER stuff to boot. JUST SAYIN! Wideners is already out of the Santa barbara 81' they had for 88$ for 200rnds. Good stufftoo. EDIT: Cheaper than dirt is outof the BVAC bulk at the moment. They will get more,it sells out fast guy,s. But its great in the PTR rifles. Sportsmans guide is waiting for a shipment of PORTUGESE on march 6th. I already ordered mine.