PTR 91 GI Parkerized?
Hey guys, I'm young and new to HK.
I was planning on getting a PTR 91 SC awhile back but decided that the full length 18in barrel is the way to go. And, as much as liked the welded rail at first, I now don't really want it. I'd prefer to buy the claw mount and mount an old Hensoldt scope, much like classic German G3s. With that said, I pretty much want my rifle to be a stock HK91, however PTR doesn't offer such a rifle. The PTR 91 FR all have the welded rails (and the bull barrels, which I don't like how muzzle-heavy they are). The closest they have is the PTR91 GI model without the welded rail. However, as I have seen them and held them in gun shops and gun shows, I cannot bring myself to buying one because of the parkerized finish! I would very much prefer the glossy black on classic HK91 rifles. Of course, when I presented my dilemma to a gun store employee, he said just buy an old HK91. But, as the last nice one I saw at a gun show was $3500, I don't have that kind of money to spend right now. I was hoping to spend $1300 or less on the rifle from the very get-go (and I know that there are cheaper HK91s, but I want a nice one, not a heavily used one).
Now, I could bring the rifle to a gunsmith and have them paint it (as I would prefer to not do it myself as I have zero experience). So, does anyone have any experience with painting a PTR 91 GI or any hints as to what I should do?
I was planning on getting a PTR 91 SC awhile back but decided that the full length 18in barrel is the way to go. And, as much as liked the welded rail at first, I now don't really want it. I'd prefer to buy the claw mount and mount an old Hensoldt scope, much like classic German G3s. With that said, I pretty much want my rifle to be a stock HK91, however PTR doesn't offer such a rifle. The PTR 91 FR all have the welded rails (and the bull barrels, which I don't like how muzzle-heavy they are). The closest they have is the PTR91 GI model without the welded rail. However, as I have seen them and held them in gun shops and gun shows, I cannot bring myself to buying one because of the parkerized finish! I would very much prefer the glossy black on classic HK91 rifles. Of course, when I presented my dilemma to a gun store employee, he said just buy an old HK91. But, as the last nice one I saw at a gun show was $3500, I don't have that kind of money to spend right now. I was hoping to spend $1300 or less on the rifle from the very get-go (and I know that there are cheaper HK91s, but I want a nice one, not a heavily used one).
Now, I could bring the rifle to a gunsmith and have them paint it (as I would prefer to not do it myself as I have zero experience). So, does anyone have any experience with painting a PTR 91 GI or any hints as to what I should do?
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Welcome to the site--- the parkerized models are pretty cool--- the classic look--- like on the FMP's!!! :biggrin:
Let us know what you acquire. :wink:
Tony
Let us know what you acquire. :wink:
Tony
I kind of like the classic look of the new PTR91 GI's with the parkerized finish. I picked one up last month, brand new from Tombstone Tactical for $760 all in - can't beat that price. I added the wood, old school Hensoldt G3 scope and G3 .22 conversion which is a ton of fun to shoot with my sear.
Very nice rifle and setup--- is that a .22 magazine??? :biggrin:I kind of like the classic look of the new PTR91 GI's with the parkerized finish. I picked one up last month, brand new from Tombstone Tactical for $760 all in - can't beat that price. I added the wood, old school Hensoldt G3 scope and G3 .22 conversion which is a ton of fun to shoot with my sear.
Tony
Thanks Tony! Yes, I currently have it setup with the .22 conversion.Very nice rifle and setup--- is that a .22 magazine??? :biggrin:
Tony
Quite welcome--- you had mentioned the .22 kit!!! :biggrin:Thanks Tony! Yes, I currently have it setup with the .22 conversion.
Tony
Thanks for all the great replies! Tony's rifle looks awesome, I love the old wood look. I'll probably go with the PTR from Atlantic without the rail. I'll post a pic when I get it. I have some parts like a wide handguard that I've bought over the course of the last few months that I'll throw on. The only thing I'm really missing is the Hensoldt scope with the clamp, but I'll probably pick one of those up later down the road when I have more money saved. I can only squeeze so much money out of my meager part-time job!
I believe this is what you're looking for --- > http://www.gunbroker.com/item/606973982
Or this one .... http://www.gunbroker.com/item/606438129
I do all my own parkerizing and painting. There is no better finish than park then paint, it's how Oberndorf does it and it's the best, period.
Parkerizing is the best surface to paint on because it's essentially sandblasted (etched) surface and it holds paint with no priming and it sticks like white on rice. I paint my HK builds with duracoat but cerakote and metacol is amazing too. No real secret to painting other than I prefer no overspray gets into the receiver, so I use a sponge. I take a regular house sponge and cut it up into formed pieces and stick them into the magwell and the cocking tube support, etc. and it works perfectly to quickly keep overspray out of the interior surfaces. You can always use tape but it takes alot longer. Remember to thouroughly degrease as almost all parks have tons of oil in the finish, applied by the factory. I burn out my receivers if they are parked, meaning I put them in an oven after degreasing at around 200 degrees for 2 hours to cook off all oils and water.
Funny thing about PTR's, their more expensive guns have a powdercoat. The inside surfaces seem treated with something but it's basically bare steel, and it has tons of overspray inside. It looks like crap.
The less expesnive PTR's are all parked, which is very easy to degrease and paint. I would prefer buying them parked than the sloppy powdercoat.
Parkerizing is the best surface to paint on because it's essentially sandblasted (etched) surface and it holds paint with no priming and it sticks like white on rice. I paint my HK builds with duracoat but cerakote and metacol is amazing too. No real secret to painting other than I prefer no overspray gets into the receiver, so I use a sponge. I take a regular house sponge and cut it up into formed pieces and stick them into the magwell and the cocking tube support, etc. and it works perfectly to quickly keep overspray out of the interior surfaces. You can always use tape but it takes alot longer. Remember to thouroughly degrease as almost all parks have tons of oil in the finish, applied by the factory. I burn out my receivers if they are parked, meaning I put them in an oven after degreasing at around 200 degrees for 2 hours to cook off all oils and water.
Funny thing about PTR's, their more expensive guns have a powdercoat. The inside surfaces seem treated with something but it's basically bare steel, and it has tons of overspray inside. It looks like crap.
The less expesnive PTR's are all parked, which is very easy to degrease and paint. I would prefer buying them parked than the sloppy powdercoat.
Is there a color you recommend to match the original HK91?I do all my own parkerizing and painting. There is no better finish than park then paint, it's how Oberndorf does it and it's the best, period.
Parkerizing is the best surface to paint on because it's essentially sandblasted (etched) surface and it holds paint with no priming and it sticks like white on rice. I paint my HK builds with duracoat but cerakote and metacol is amazing too. No real secret to painting other than I prefer no overspray gets into the receiver, so I use a sponge. I take a regular house sponge and cut it up into formed pieces and stick them into the magwell and the cocking tube support, etc. and it works perfectly to quickly keep overspray out of the interior surfaces. You can always use tape but it takes alot longer. Remember to thouroughly degrease as almost all parks have tons of oil in the finish, applied by the factory. I burn out my receivers if they are parked, meaning I put them in an oven after degreasing at around 200 degrees for 2 hours to cook off all oils and water.
Funny thing about PTR's, their more expensive guns have a powdercoat. The inside surfaces seem treated with something but it's basically bare steel, and it has tons of overspray inside. It looks like crap.
The less expesnive PTR's are all parked, which is very easy to degrease and paint. I would prefer buying them parked than the sloppy powdercoat.
Well, that'd be the best option. Except I really would prefer to not paint it myself lol. I know that sounds stupid but I have no experience in painting and, besides, I live in an apartment so I really have no place to do it. So, do you think it'd be a better option to buy the parkerized GI model and then bring it to a gunsmith and have them paint it?I do all my own parkerizing and painting. There is no better finish than park then paint, it's how Oberndorf does it and it's the best, period.
Parkerizing is the best surface to paint on because it's essentially sandblasted (etched) surface and it holds paint with no priming and it sticks like white on rice. I paint my HK builds with duracoat but cerakote and metacol is amazing too. No real secret to painting other than I prefer no overspray gets into the receiver, so I use a sponge. I take a regular house sponge and cut it up into formed pieces and stick them into the magwell and the cocking tube support, etc. and it works perfectly to quickly keep overspray out of the interior surfaces. You can always use tape but it takes alot longer. Remember to thouroughly degrease as almost all parks have tons of oil in the finish, applied by the factory. I burn out my receivers if they are parked, meaning I put them in an oven after degreasing at around 200 degrees for 2 hours to cook off all oils and water.
Funny thing about PTR's, their more expensive guns have a powdercoat. The inside surfaces seem treated with something but it's basically bare steel, and it has tons of overspray inside. It looks like crap.
The less expesnive PTR's are all parked, which is very easy to degrease and paint. I would prefer buying them parked than the sloppy powdercoat.
See I'm pretty sure those two you posted have the bull barrels on them. I'd prefer the original HK stepped barrels that aren't as muzzle-heavy. I know that I'm very picky lol but I want my rifle to be just right.Or this one .... http://www.gunbroker.com/item/606438129
EDIT: nvm I'm an idiot I didn't look close enough. I see they have the HK spec barrels lmao. I'll consider them, they're bound to keep popping up
I use the HK Semi Gloss Black duracoat sells. If you mix it conservatively with the hardener (meaning light on the hardener) you get a pretty decent finish comparable to original HK semi-gloss black. It's not exactly the same, a little darker actually. Let me get my camera setup and I'll post some pics of original Oberndorf vs. thje Duracoat.Is there a color you recommend to match the original HK91?
If your inclined at all and can get your hands on an air compressor and an HVLP gun it's pretty easy to do it yourself. I am in a small home garage and been painting for years with no booth or anything fancy and gotten decent results.Well, that'd be the best option. Except I really would prefer to not paint it myself lol. I know that sounds stupid but I have no experience in painting and, besides, I live in an apartment so I really have no place to do it. So, do you think it'd be a better option to buy the parkerized GI model and then bring it to a gunsmith and have them paint it?
I would recommend getting a parked rifle and then sending it to be coated, albeit with some instructions not to get overspray into the receiver. It's not that the overspray is bad but it's my personal pet pev to see it like that, I think it looks sloppy. I'll post some pics of my process.
When I was looking to purchase mine those were runner ups, I had purchase mine from a different auction but had emailed the other auction guys to verify that they were the PTR F Classic with the tappered barrel and features closest to the HK style. The attached photo was the style I purchased.See I'm pretty sure those two you posted have the bull barrels on them. I'd prefer the original HK stepped barrels that aren't as muzzle-heavy. I know that I'm very picky lol but I want my rifle to be just right.
EDIT: nvm I'm an idiot I didn't look close enough. I see they have the HK spec barrels lmao. I'll consider them, they're bound to keep popping up
Thanks. I just picked-up a GI non-rail for Christmas and was thinking about painting my rail version.I use the HK Semi Gloss Black duracoat sells. If you mix it conservatively with the hardener (meaning light on the hardener) you get a pretty decent finish comparable to original HK semi-gloss black. It's not exactly the same, a little darker actually. Let me get my camera setup and I'll post some pics of original Oberndorf vs. thje Duracoat.
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