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I had a ****ens of a time removing my PTR heavy barrel FS so I could install a Vortex.. can only imagine struggling with the short version and no stock. I had to have my gal virtually sit on the stock in addition to my left hand, and I used a BIG wrench AND a cheater bar/tube
 

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Maybe I shouldn't try to take it off...lol. I wanted to see if I could slip my SP89 handguard onto the pistol without the flash hider. I don't think it will, but was bored and thought I would try.
I would not even think about it for that reason.. but if you like getting frustrated... lol
 
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