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Heya all first post!

I've been lurking this forum for awhile :)

I picked up a sweet P7 last weekend and already put 500 rounds thru it! It looked new, built in 83 saxony assuming the officer qualified with it twice a year it should AT LEAST a thousand rounds thru it! It's refurbed... It looks brand new!

It looks as new as the day I picked it up after 500 rounds!!! I have a thousand rounds of frangible in route to pop some steel at an indoor range. My old P7 I sold in 1985 had around 15k-20k rounds thru it. (I owned a dillon) when I sold it it looked as good as new (minor holster wear from competition) I bet it would make it to 50k! Dunno, it worked as good the day I sold it as the day I bought it!

My point is this!

I keep reading about guns that are 15-20 years old with only 100 rounds fired.

Does anybody believe this? I can see once in a blue moon, but to buy a p7 and only put a hundred rounds thru it?

Sounds too good to be true! Don't people ever sell guns with 5000 rounds fired? Lol
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I've seen Chantilly's from 198(whatever) that have never been fired, or breather on hard, so yes, it is believable. Some folks just resist that little voice better than we do.
Here is a pic!


My point is.... I don't think anyone can tell the difference between 500-5000 rounds! Not really, on a well made pistol, it makes me chuckle to see every gun for sale has crazy low round count, seems incredible!

I think I want a jubilee p7..... I won't shoot it!
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Look at this! Five mags, two holsters, all them bells and whistles.... 350 rds? Incredible!

Maybe after buying HKs you can't afford to buy bullets! 😳
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I think you'll find that most people barely shoot. Some because of money.......

Some are just casual in their ownership/use of guns (buy it and generally ignore it except for once a year range visit).....

Most, because they're buying the gun to fill some void in their life through material possession. They might talk a lot, but they aren't actually interested in shooting. They just like having the gun, and usually have a pretty weird borderline love-affair with their guns. They'll most likely deny this, and some will even vehemently defend their materialism by calling themselves "collectors" even though they're buying mass-produced service pistols (sorry, don't care what you say, that USP or P-series isn't a collectible, get a life). This is the majority of people you'll find on most gun forums, IMO. If I see them in person, I'll take sand paper to my P2000 and throw it on the ground just to break their hearts and make their head'a'splode....but thankfully they don't actually get to the range often, and if they do I generally ignore them because they're either:
1) dressed up in tactical gear for their range outing
2) otherwise acting like an assclown
3) Most commonly, they are just really lacking people skills, hence their seeking happiness though materials in the first place.
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Everyone's gun only has "200 rounds down the pipe" when they're trying to sell it.

These are the people who tell the officer: "I only had 2 drinks".
I've noticed the people with thousands and thousands of rounds through their guns tend to keep them because they're familiar with them and/or it has sentimental value. If you have that many rounds through the gun, chances are you like it and have no reason to sell it. People sell guns they don't like. It doesn't take much more than a hundred rounds to figure out you don't like your gun after all. The only time I really see people selling their guns with 10k rounds through them are when they're desperate for the money, or have gotten out of the sport, or retired as an LEO, etc.

Personally, I picked up a USP9 a few weeks back that was built in '98 and never had a round through it.
I think you'll find that most people barely shoot. Some because of money.......

Some are just casual in their ownership/use of guns (buy it and generally ignore it except for once a year range visit).....

Most, because they're buying the gun to fill some void in their life through material possession. They might talk a lot, but they aren't actually interested in shooting. They just like having the gun, and usually have a pretty weird borderline love-affair with their guns. They'll most likely deny this, and some will even vehemently defend their materialism by calling themselves "collectors" even though they're buying mass-produced service pistols (sorry, don't care what you say, that USP or P-series isn't a collectible, get a life). This is the majority of people you'll find on most gun forums, IMO. If I see them in person, I'll take sand paper to my P2000 and throw it on the ground just to break their hearts and make their head'a'splode....but thankfully they don't actually get to the range often, and if they do I generally ignore them because they're either:
1) dressed up in tactical gear for their range outing
2) otherwise acting like an assclown
3) Most commonly, they are just really lacking people skills, hence their seeking happiness though materials in the first place.
My brother from a different mother! Dude, as previously offered, feel free to borrow my disclaimer that appears on my signature.
It may be hard to believe, but some folks like owning guns, but not firing them; or don't make time to do so. My dad has a pistol he bought back in 1969 that he fired one mag through, cleaned it and put it away. There it sat for 40 years until I found it. Now it has two mags through it. hehe.
I just assume everyone is lying to me when they claim a low round count. I'll usually keep it to myself though. I guess I'm a skeptic. I also have never bought a used gun because of that though, lol. My next HK is going to be a stainless compact so I imagine I'm going to have to get over it. :0)P
I just assume everyone is lying to me when they claim a low round count. I'll usually keep it to myself though. I guess I'm a skeptic. I also have never bought a used gun because of that though, lol. My next HK is going to be a stainless compact so I imagine I'm going to have to get over it. :0)P
This is the defintion of a skeptic! I love it! I have several guns that I've fired maybe 100 to 150 times over the last 30 years and now thay rest, peacefully in the safe, to be brought out some time in the future for showing or perhaps after I die!...Who knows...but for now they sit, waiting.
Maybe I'll begin to sell some of them...you never know, but when, and if I do, they will all be "only fired gently"!
"all highway miles." lol
I say the higher the round count the better the gun gets. Put 300 rds through the new to me USP40 SS in the last week.. rather be a shooter than a gun owner/collector!
Someone would make a mint if they invented a round counter similar to an hour meter on excavation equipment.
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