Red dot for my SBR
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Aimpoint Micro.
Buy once, cry once.
Buy once, cry once.
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http://www.hkpro.com/forum/hk-clone-talk/233125-mp5-clone-reddot-opinions-requested.html
Another vote for the Micro.
Another vote for the Micro.
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+1 for the aimpoint. Spend the money once and dont regret it.
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Go to Aimpoint's website and hear it from them. There's no substitute for the micro.
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I will say this, you can't go wrong with Aim Point. They are the top shelf optic, regarding 1X dot scopes. A Micro will out live you in all reality. I have seen them absolutely beat to death, and they keep working and hold zero.
That said, I am very intrigued by the Trijicon MRO, and I am going to run one through the paces. I have heard very good things about them, and they offer a slightly wider field of view than the Micro...
As for the Sig sights...... I don't know, Sig has had a history of buy crap from China and putting their brand on it. I'm specifically referring to the weapon mounted lights they were selling for a while. So I just don't know about their stuff yet.....
You might also look at Vortex. I've not used them, but I keep hearing good things about them. I'd think on a 9mm carbine their dot sight would hold up. Again, I've not used them, and have no first hand experience with them, but the brand name keeps coming up as an option....
I'm inclined to go with the Micro or the Trijicon MRO.
That said, I am very intrigued by the Trijicon MRO, and I am going to run one through the paces. I have heard very good things about them, and they offer a slightly wider field of view than the Micro...
As for the Sig sights...... I don't know, Sig has had a history of buy crap from China and putting their brand on it. I'm specifically referring to the weapon mounted lights they were selling for a while. So I just don't know about their stuff yet.....
You might also look at Vortex. I've not used them, but I keep hearing good things about them. I'd think on a 9mm carbine their dot sight would hold up. Again, I've not used them, and have no first hand experience with them, but the brand name keeps coming up as an option....
I'm inclined to go with the Micro or the Trijicon MRO.
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LaRue LT661 short mount is a QD mount that I'm using with an Aimpoint T2 on the B&T 21241. It puts the dot just below the top of the front sightnhood. Above the sight, below the hood.
Looks like this on the gun:
My experience has been with the Sig Romeo 4, Aimpoint Micro, Trijicon MRO, and Eotech XPS2-0. In my opinion you can't go wrong with either the Aimpoint or the MRO, I prefer the MRO for a slightly wider FOV as stated above. I also love my Eotech, but it is larger and heavier than the other options and depending on what its going on may factor, the eotech has taken a beating and held zero, I haven't had it in extreme weather so can't comment on extremes. The Sig Romeo I have only fired in an indoor range while I zero'd the optic for my father and then again the next time we went out, performed just as well as the others under the conditions I have experience with but something about it, that I can't put my finger on exactly, felt slightly cheaper than the others but since it costs only half or a third that of the others I could see myself buying one for range only use, I also appreciated that you could cycle between just a 2moa dot or dot with 65moa ring. Ultimately if it's only for range use they will all get the job done, now if you're going to be doing anything more involved or counting on it when your life is on the line I'd step up to one of the other 3. I'd also consider which reticle you like since the Aimpoint and MRO are 2moa (Aimpoint also has a 4moa) dots while the Eotech has the 2moa dot with 65moa ring. The Aimpoint and Sig both have caps over the windage/elevation adjustments which when unscrewed (which can be done easily) can be used to adjust the optics while both the Eotech and MRO require some sort of flat edge, tool, coin, etc to make adjustments. They all have pros and cons in my opinion, so weigh those as well as the price differences and what you're honestly going to be using it for and make a decision as in the end I'm sure you'll be happy with anything listed so far. Good luck
edit: just reread what firearm it's going on and agree with LCSO264, go for either the MRO or the Micro
edit: just reread what firearm it's going on and agree with LCSO264, go for either the MRO or the Micro
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I've used the Bushnell TRS-25 on the B&T low profile mount. Despite not being the sharpest dot in the drawer, it is fine for plinking. For $50 it is nice to have one with an Arms Unlimited QD lever to just quickly toss on whatever you are shooting for fun.
I wouldn't bet my life on it or even bother taking it to an expensive training class, though. I have an $675 Aimpoint T-2 for anything important.
Somewhere in the middle, price performance wise, is said to be the $169 Primary Arms Advanced Micro Dot. I have one on the way and plan to try that out on a few different platforms, as a bit more dependable red dot for my plinking fun ... and then dedicate my Bushnells to the kids' .22s.
I'm thinking of trying the $475 Trijicon MRO because of the larger field of view, too, despite hearing the clarity isn't on par with the Aimpoint T-2.
I wouldn't bet my life on it or even bother taking it to an expensive training class, though. I have an $675 Aimpoint T-2 for anything important.
Somewhere in the middle, price performance wise, is said to be the $169 Primary Arms Advanced Micro Dot. I have one on the way and plan to try that out on a few different platforms, as a bit more dependable red dot for my plinking fun ... and then dedicate my Bushnells to the kids' .22s.
I'm thinking of trying the $475 Trijicon MRO because of the larger field of view, too, despite hearing the clarity isn't on par with the Aimpoint T-2.
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I got my MRO for $393 from kygunco (currently $408 w/o a mount) leaving plenty to be spent on a nice mount. Also shop around for the Sig Romeo 4 (B and C) were less than $250 at my LGS and have seen them online for the same price and that includes Hi and Lo QD mount and for the B bimini and flipup covers. Purchased both for slightly under what I have into my Aimpoint.
To valleyhkguy's point and others, with my original MRO (purchased almost 2 years ago now) I had some minor clarity issues not necessarily from the glass but almost like the light source was also illuminating 1/8th of the upper left of the outer edge as well when in the higher power settings and slightly more resistance to adjustment than I'd have preferred but with a newer one I've acquired those issues (or a clarity issue) do not exist. Not sure what the issue with the original was, maybe it was glass clarity, but like stated is not present on the current one I have.
Never had any issues with the others, or other Trijicon optics for that matter
To valleyhkguy's point and others, with my original MRO (purchased almost 2 years ago now) I had some minor clarity issues not necessarily from the glass but almost like the light source was also illuminating 1/8th of the upper left of the outer edge as well when in the higher power settings and slightly more resistance to adjustment than I'd have preferred but with a newer one I've acquired those issues (or a clarity issue) do not exist. Not sure what the issue with the original was, maybe it was glass clarity, but like stated is not present on the current one I have.
Never had any issues with the others, or other Trijicon optics for that matter
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Arms Unlimited has the MROs with mounts for $415 shipped. I think the no-mount option was around $373.
You can find used Aimpoint ACOs for $290-300 and the PRO for $350. Every time I look at a Holosun/PA and now Sig (think these are all made by Holosun), I remind myself the vetted/proven 30mm Aimpoints are really really not much more money.
Or save up for the H1 used at $400ish.
You can find used Aimpoint ACOs for $290-300 and the PRO for $350. Every time I look at a Holosun/PA and now Sig (think these are all made by Holosun), I remind myself the vetted/proven 30mm Aimpoints are really really not much more money.
Or save up for the H1 used at $400ish.
What's up Ray !....I really like the Holosun 503 GU..using a kley zion clone of the 10266 for the mount...absolute co witness if that's something you want..I bought one of the primary arms advanced micro dots first but I had a hard time seeing the dot clearly because of my vision problems ..so I got the holosun 503 GU since it has a eotech type 65 moa circle with the red dot in the center..it's a sweet sight..I'll probably get another once I get rid of the PA....watched a bunch of youtubers testing the PA and the holosun and they both held up great under some pretty extreme testing.
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