[GTPprix]

Well I know its against STATE law to posess an SBR in Michigan, however does Federal Law with a Form 1 trump this and allow me to legalls posess one? Any input is appreciated, I'm a little reluctant to call the ATF and ask hehe

 

[Wild_Bill]

Just call and leave a message.

Wild Bill

 

[BillR]

state law trumps federal law. Basically state law has all the federal stuff plus added crap .

 

[sig-x]

It will not work. I tried to purchase a can from my C3 dealer and sent in the paper work and it got denied. They said state "Michigan" law does allow suppressors. So I assume the same would happen with the SBR. I got my $200 dollar check back a couple months later.

You can try but it will probably be denied. I still have the can and it stays at my C3 dealer and I shoot it whenever I go to his shop. Hope this helps. Don't be afraid to call them.

 

[jimk23]

If State law prohibits SBR, thar's it. I know it sucks. But, you will be wasting your time to try. Best thing is to change your State law on SBR's then proceed with Form 1.

 

[JasonD]

There has been talk lately about the introduction of legislation allowing Silencers in MI. I think there is something already introduced not sure if it is in the Senate or House of Reps. for the state. Of course like everything else in the state lately, if it makes sense or brings in money it probably will not go anywhere. I would check the state's website for pending legislation, or try contacting your representatitive.

Good Luck & Keep Trying!

 

[mmissile]

Yeah, I know I'm just "Blown away!!":20000000:

 

[Dutchpilot]

The SBR and SBS prohibition in MI is a separate statute and not covered by the very good AG opinion opening the door to machine guns; we're still waiting and hoping for an expansion of that opinion to include suppressors since they are identified in the same statute as the mg's. Your only exemption for an SBR is to possess it pursuant to an appropriate Fed. license, such as a C & R or an FFL/SOT. ATF will not allow either the making or transfer in or to Michigan otherwise since it is banned by State law.

 

[NvrenufRR]

My understanding on MI SBR Is NO WAY right now.
The ONLY way you can SBR anything is if you are Class 3 Dealer that can transfer Dealer only and posses,
OR
You OWN a C3 Registerd MG. You can then Change your weapon to any configuration you wish as far as length only having to notify ATF of PERMNENT lentgh change.

SORY KIDS, NO CANS AS OF YET, but keep on writing into MR. Cox, he is one of the good guys and trying for us to obtain Cans

 

[Bighunt1975]

Cans would be wonderful. I am going to send a letter to Mr. Cox this week and try convince my friends and family to do the same. I am hoping one day that our governing bodies will realize that criminals cause crime and not guns.

 

[NvrenufRR]

Cans would be wonderful. I am going to send a letter to Mr. Cox this week and try convince my friends and family to do the same. I am hoping one day that our governing bodies will realize that criminals cause crime and not guns.

The key to this Persistence.
It will not happen overnight, We have been trying since the opinion on MG was issued, with some forward movement.
But if we can all continue to write letters and send emails in a professional manner, we will have our voices heard.

 

[dezmo1754]

So if state law trumps fed law, Why is a PS90 still a rifle even though the states makes you reg it as a pistol. If State law says its a pistol, then shouldnt that trump the fed?

 

[rkwallace]

Pardon the ignorance, but what do SBR and SBS stand for?

 

[guymack]

"Short Barrel Rifle", and "Short Barrel Shotgun".
It took me awhile to figure it out too, but I have been doing a lot of research trying to figure where to buy parts to makean AR15/ hk 416.

 

[infrared35]

So if state law trumps fed law, Why is a PS90 still a rifle even though the states makes you reg it as a pistol. If State law says its a pistol, then shouldnt that trump the fed?

State law does trump federal law on the PS90 - Michigan considers it a pistol because of the overall length, so it's more restricted (i.e. you have to register it as a pistol).

 

[rssnjr]

I don't know anything about this topic but are the fed laws the same for MG and SBR and SBS and silencers?

 

[sqidd]

State law does trump federal law on the PS90 - Michigan considers it a pistol because of the overall length, so it's more restricted (i.e. you have to register it as a pistol).

Target Sports in Royal Oak always has 3-4 SBR AR-15’s under the counter (and they do rotate out) last time I was there I asked the counter guy if it was legal for me to buy one (he knows I have a CCW) and he said “Sure, you want it today? I’m guessing that it just gets registered as a pistol.

 

[Bighunt1975]

Michigan Law states that the minimum legal barrel length for a rifle if 16 inches and the overall length has to be over 26 inches. If the barrel is shorter than that or the overall length of the rifle is under 26 inches...the weapon is not legal in Michigan.

 

[GTPprix]

Wow I didnt know my almost two year old post got dug up Michigan = Teh Suxor for NFA stuff.

 

[block15]

Target Sports in Royal Oak always has 3-4 SBR AR-15’s under the counter (and they do rotate out) last time I was there I asked the counter guy if it was legal for me to buy one (he knows I have a CCW) and he said “Sure, you want it today? I’m guessing that it just gets registered as a pistol.

I looked into getting a SBR and a can in MI. Unfortunately, as of now, they are both illegal to be in possession of in MI. You can however, set up a trust and base it in a free state, say ohio, apply for your tax stamp through your trust and purchase a suppressor or a SBR in ohio - but you have to keep it in ohio or any state that complies with the federal C3 system - you just cant keep it in Michigan.

As for the guns at Target sports. They are classified as pistols in Michigan, NOT SBR. Thats why you see the buffer tubing on each of them.