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Will sear prices rise above 2016 prices, remain flat, or reduce in price for 2017?

  • Reduce to $20's

    Votes: 35 31.3%
  • Exceed the $30k price of 2016

    Votes: 40 35.7%
  • Remain flat/neutral

    Votes: 37 33.0%
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First....I know....I know....I know. This is not the first time it's been said. However, in watching the recent sales over the last 30-60 days....it looks like we may be on a backward move, especially with a new administration. For those that have been watching as well....what say you? Thanks for the input
 

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If this proves true it will test my resolve of not spending any more large amounts of money for a while.
I know....same here. It's just after going through a lot of the recent transactions, people aren't buying at the $30K mark, and some didn't even break the $25K mark, aside from a couple of unrated buyers.
 

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Unless something chances, I see this as nothing more than a respite in the post finger printing/pictures requirement for trusts. There was a huge buy up and many people jumped into the market. Higher price brought more sears into the market. Buyers have now largely been satisfied. Time to pause. The market settles. Interest rates are going to climb. This is to be expected. Will prices pull back a bit? Of course. A correction? I don't think so.
 

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Prices are stabilizing. Same thing has happened before in 2015 and before that. I think you need at least 18 months of price data to establish a trend. I'm being conservative with 18 months.
 

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First of all to have a "True Market Value" there has to be an infinite amount of "A" or the ability to produce an infinite amount of "A". If there is a finite amount of "A" which we know there is 175k, in fact there is an attrition of about 1k of "A" every year. There fore there can be no so called correction of "A".

The recent pull back of prices or lull in buying is nothing more than buyers taking a wait an see approach on Hughes or the potential repeal of Hughes. Which in my opinion has a Snow Balls Chance in HeII of passing but there has been enough Chatter out there that people have taken notice and put a temp hold on buying. Same can be said for suppressors with all the talk of HPA. With the current unpredictability of the current Admin buyers are skittish the uncertainty is whats keeping people from buying once that uncertainty goes away prices will sky rocket past previous levels........

I remember when this article came out ATF May Soon Reclassify Some Machine Guns as "Post Sample" and Non-Transferrable - The Truth About Guns prices dropped a little, nothing more than gloom an doom being preached, we see where that ended up..................

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Unless something chances, I see this as nothing more than a respite in the post finger printing/pictures requirement for trusts. There was a huge buy up and many people jumped into the market. Higher price brought more sears into the market. Buyers have now largely been satisfied. Time to pause. The market settles. Interest rates are going to climb. This is to be expected. Will prices pull back a bit? Of course. A correction? I don't think so.
caf82313, for the record, I was not making a prediction.
 

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Hey guys

Thanks for the input, and lots of interesting ways to decipher the market. With that, I agree to some extent....with the changes regarding trusts {41f}, uncertainty with NFA/Hughes, interest rates predicted to climb at least two more times this year, in addition to the last 1/4 hike, and new admin.....I really think the market may begin to stagnate this year, leading into next, possibly declining. Again....I'm not an expert, but like a lot of you....I watch this very closely, and I've seen this before.

Any other observations....are welcome. Thanks again for your input.
 

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Hey guys

Thanks for the input, and lots of interesting ways to decipher the market. With that, I agree to some extent....with the changes regarding trusts {41f}, uncertainty with NFA/Hughes, interest rates predicted to climb at least two more times this year, in addition to the last 1/4 hike, and new admin.....I really think the market may begin to stagnate this year, leading into next, possibly declining. Again....I'm not an expert, but like a lot of you....I watch this very closely, and I've seen this before.

Any other observations....are welcome. Thanks again for your input.

MG prices are definitely dropping right now!! We all talked, our group of friends had discussed the bubble before the election, remember(some Pro members and some not)? However, it could have went the other direction had Trump not won the election. Only time will tell what happens with prices..
 

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Op, I think you're seeing a correction to a rapid run up via Obama and a Hillary succession that didn't materialize. More confidence in a less anti-gun political agenda reduces the perception of "now or never", stuff everyone knows. I also think people need to recognize that the people now buying $30k sears generally are sophisticated investors that have investable net worth. Equity market is strong right now, smart investment portfolios are up in value - probably pulling money in that direction after a long stint of distrust. Seeing the same thing in collectible cars right now. I've got a '97 Porsche 993 TT probably dropped $25k over the last 6 months for no specific reason after a massive run up. Just market cycles in the rare air of hyper-luxury nice to haves in my opinion. Matt
 

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I know I wouldn't be hanging onto them at this point honestly.
Spoken like someone looking for a deal :22: Do you own any F/A MG's? If not I really don't think your Qualified one way or the other in telling someone who does what you would do..........If you do own them where are your listings for sale?

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Spoken like someone looking for a deal :22: Do you own any F/A MG's? If not I really don't think your Qualified one way or the other in telling someone who does what you would do..........If you do own them where are your listings for sale?

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Prices are dropping 20% or more and I think this is just the beginning. However bigly these MAGA changes may be, I wouldn't be surprised if the administration doesn't tap into the NFA revenue stream by opening up the registration again. These machineguns after all were banned on feels and I think the current administration is fresh out of caring about feels.



This DLO pack just sold for $28,025. Lowest price I've seen in years.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/624992094
A full 25% under the projected buy now price also and just a hair over the reserve.



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This DLO pack just sold for $28,025. Lowest price I've seen in years.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/624992094
I think there were some questions about the markings and whether it had been repaired/welded.........What is funny to me is when all the Hughes Repeal talk started all over the internet gun forums etc is when the price stalled/declined on all MG's exception maybe some of the really Rare C&R stuff yet there are some who are calling this a correction due to run up of election. Sears were still bringing top Dollar after the election..........here is one that is off a little as well http://www.gunbroker.com/item/625810592
 

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I think there were some questions about the markings and whether it had been repaired/welded.........What is funny to me is when all the Hughes Repeal talk started all over the internet gun forums etc is when the price stalled/declined on all MG's exception maybe some of the really Rare C&R stuff yet there are some who are calling this a correction due to run up of election. Sears were still bringing top Dollar after the election..........here is one that is off a little as well http://www.gunbroker.com/item/625810592

Notice the guy without feedback bidding it up.
 

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It'll be interesting to see where prices start to level out in the coming months, and when they'll start to rebound again.

I'm sure as hell not going to rush out and sell any of my transferable MG's under the assumption that the Hughes Amendment will be repealed. In fact, I think it's pretty comical to think anyone actually believes that will come to fruition, but hey, i'd love to end up eating my words and have that registry open again. Just imagine the possibilities, I'd be more than happy to take a hit for the team, but i'm definitely not holding my breath for that one.

Can you imagine how much the left will fight back if a bill like that even makes it to congress? Sorry, ain't gonna happen. We will have a hard enough time keeping our rights to buy "assault rifles" and "high capacity magazines" in the years ahead. I also don't believe Trump will be the savior for all our 2A rights, but again, I hope I'm proven wrong.
 

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Notice the guy without feedback bidding it up.
I smell a rat. The A+2 rating just happens to be from the same seller that is posting this MP5 (Midwest Tactical)... With less than 5 minutes to go, he had this win, but decided to bid again to reset the clock for another 15 minutes; what a putz. Shill bidder for sure... Guess $24K wasn't high enough.
 
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