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straightgrain's Cheese Grated Range Report

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Took neighbor "Bill" to range on Saturday. Bill is kind of a strange bird. Asks a lot of stupid "how come" questions and has a really bad outlook on everything most of the time. An example of the "how come..." questions is the exchange we had over Blazer rounds.

"I'll pick up some of the cheapie Blazers at Academy."
"You can use in your Glock, but you ain't using 'em in my weapons."
"How come?"
"I really don't want to get into a physics lesson with you."
"Then make it simple."
"You're not using aluminum casing in my guns. Period."
Later on at the range, I showed him some burst Blazer casings on the ground and hinted that it might be a bit of a dangerous situation, especially in fluted barrels, etc. Brass eliminates my concerns and brass is what I use.

As for his outlook, we were having a nice lunch on a picnic table near a BBQ stand before the range time. It was clear as a bell outside, not too hot, and fairly dry, which is an amazing combo for Houston. His comment was "Man, this place is gonna be packed. It'll be miserable." I just rolled my eyes.

We get there and get an entire bay to ourselves. I pull out a pair of gloves and start arranging steel. The "how comes" were already starting up and I just told him we were going to shoot pistol rounds onto steel targets. I set up some cardboard targets on the berm for the rifle rounds. Went through the range rules, explained the etiquette if somebody else showed up, pointed to the cr*pper, and then showed how there were no holes in the shelter (unlike every other range in Houston) and that he was to keep it that way.

We start prepping all the guns. It was a festival of weaponry. I had brought a P2000SK in .40, an HK91, a FA MP5, a USPf .45, and an AR15 with a couple of different uppers. He brought his Glock 9mm and his Benelli Mk 4 with mall-ninja collapsible stock. Did I mention that my 91 has the collapsible "cheese grater" stock? Did I mention that I have neuropathy, and a resultant reduced capacity to realize when my body is getting injured? Hmm...

I get him comfortable shooting steel with his Glock and he starts to understand why I enjoy steel so much. He start concentrating on getting COM hits instead of shooting bullseyes and... his accuracy goes up. We move over to his shotgun and step back a bit and start eating up the better part of a case of shells. He's still in awe that there's hardly anyone there. I then move us to the MP5. He'd never shot FA before and I went through the safety drill an operation of the weapon. Before he could say anything I just told him to shut up and listen; no questions. I'd worry about his stance and technique later. He throws that thing up on his shoulder, gets his feet all bladed, tosses out the right elbow in his best "chicks dig it / chicken wing" pose and looks like he's prepping for the recoil of a Howitzer. It took everything I had to keep from falling down laughing after he went through the first mag. We started trading off between the MP5 and pistols and as he got more comfortable with the MP5, I started working on his stance and control. Of course, he started whining about it feeling uncomfortable and that it couldn't be right. He told me it felt like I was teaching him how to play golf. To which I told him that he sucked at golf and that he has always sucked at golf and that the reason for that is that he was incapable of absorbing a golf lesson. "Yeah, so. I still have fun." "But you would have more fun if you scored better." I showed him that with a few changes he could, indeed, improve his control with the gun... despite that it didn't feel right.

After awhile, we moved on to the rifles. The AR purred like a kitten, especially since I had replaced all the bolt carriers with some 60's vintage hard chromed M16 carriers. So much smoother (and so much easier to clean!). We dumped a lot of rounds through the carbine length (I liked the vertical grip, he didn't... whiner) and we both thoroughly enjoyed the 10.5" SBR configuration. Then we went to the 91. I expected a complaint and I got one: "Man, this is a heavy pig." "Just as heavy as your shotgun..." We proceeded to blast away with the thing, taking a few breaks with the MP5 to let things cool down. He eventually smiled and admitted that the whole session was pretty cool and fun.

Round count:
9mm: 1400
.40: 250
.45: 250
.223: 1100
.308: 900

Bill had bough a bunch of 9mm to contribute to the cause and then realized how much of my stash he had "spent" in rifle calibers. He wound up taking me out to the bar near the range for an after shoot cool down and then he took me and my whole family out to dinner later on (good guy). About that cheese grater...

The end of the collapsible stock on most HK's looks and feels like a cheese grater. Most people can feel the thing digging in and are able to adjust the positioning so that the same spot on the shoulder doesn't get continuously chewed up. Not me. I have a giant spot on my shoulder that looks like a blood blistered, multi-colored bruised road rash courtesy of that cheese grater. A heckuva good time!
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Can I go? Huu? Can I? Can I? Huu? Can I pretty please?
::smiles his jolly smile::
Nice report and it must have been a great trip.
It sounds like you both went through around $1K or so worth of ammo!


Uhh... yep. Please don't tell wifey...
Your collection is the dream I aspire to.

Thanks a bunch! And it's also nice to hear of shooters sharing the sport in the proper manner.
Aw... That aint even a dent in the collection! The secret is to never have it all out of the safes at the same time.
Will you adopt me, I'll even move to Texas. Jeff
Sorry, adoption center is closed. I already have teenagers to worry about. I don't need a buncha wild-eyed gun nuts runnin' around sayin "Daddy, can we go shootin' now, please, please, can we huh?" all the time... Oh wait, that's what I mutter to myself. Still, pass.
I liked the vertical grip, he didn't
a mall ninja that doesn't like vertical grips? Jesus must be comin back.
Sorry, adoption center is closed. I already have teenagers to worry about. I don't need a buncha wild-eyed gun nuts runnin' around sayin "Daddy, can we go shootin' now, please, please, can we huh?" all the time... Oh wait, that's what I mutter to myself. Still, pass.
Sounds like you guys had a blast no pun intended. Or then again maybe it was.
Yes, much fun. Just wait until he gets introduced to the belt-fed bug. Then I'm gonna max out his credit cards!
... The secret is to never have it all out of the safes at the same time.
+10! :)

Great range report btw! Sounds like you guys had a great time!

Im off to the range myself. (Gotta stop reading these range reports...hehehe)
I enjoyed your creative range report.

After my ex-marine buddy (who allegedly hasn't been to the range in 5 years and has never shot an HK) AD'd and blew a hole in the table at my favorite indoor range with my USP CT .45 I vow not to bring friends with me any longer. It's just not fun to constantly have to babysit them and pray they don't shoot anything they aren't supposed to (like me).

My first ND incident was when another buddy pulled the trigger on my old Smith & Wesson Sigma and put a 9mm round in the grass about one inch behind my heel. It was my fault for handing him a hot gun but I really didn't think he'd be stupid enough to just pull the trigger without thinking.

My best range guests have been girlfriends. Women are attentive, safety conscious, ask intelligent questions, and at the end of the day usually leave being respectable shooters.
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