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When the Apex kits came out a year or two ago I bought a kit on a whim, not really knowing anything about the receiver situation. Well, there was little to nothing out there and it seemed like this kit was going to be in the box indefinitely. Then I read Hill and Mac Gunworks where going to sell some Cetme L's made from receivers they had manufactured.

I jumped on the chance several months ago and the flat and bending jig as well as the weldment pieces where excellent quality and the kit really flew together with no hassels, it's a lot like any HK rollerlock build.

But the real big thank you goes out to Inrange TV that did a SUPERB 12 part build series that covered every facet of the build from soup to nuts. The videos are so good they should have charged money for them, they are up for free on Full 30 and youtube. The video series could be used as a blueprint to build any HK too, it's that good. I would have been totally lost as to how to complete the semi-conversion without this build series. Ian and Karl are true Mensches.

I worked out the dimensions and printed a BB out, it's a simple cap that fits around the mag release (actually a new printed steel material).

I parked it in a charcoal grey and then painted with a Duracoat WW2 OD green. It's not really the right green but its as close as I could match, the original OD green is a little less "olive". But it looks ok, I wish I had some nicer condition furniture.

A cool design to be sure, have not fired it yet, I will post a range report. These were a Spanish design that is basically a scaled down version of an Cetme A,B,C in 5.56. It's however not an HK 33 which it shares 0 parts with. It's about a pound lighter than my HK 33 and much slimer. I have read these where designed in the 80's and used from the late 80's to 90's. They performed so badly in Desert Storm they where promptly retired. I think most of the problems where with the magazines, it uses most standard Stanag's but the Spanish decided to make their own magazines.

So far it feeds great, the mag drops free, and it feels fantastic. Kudos again to HMG for making a flat and jig that bended and fit up like butter, literally 0 issues.

If anyone needs build tips or the BB let me know.

Got a stellar .020 bolt gap to boot, this one is hard to tune because there are no parts available.







Good article and history:
CETME Model L Assault Rifle | Military-Today.com

 

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I love green rifles.

That is the nicest poodle shooter I've even seen!

Dennis
 

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Thanks for taking the time to post this and the good pictures. I knew of the Cetme L but not much about its history until now. Good job on the color!
 

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While it's an interesting bit of history and something you are not likely to see at the range, the rifle was basically a POS according to your linked article.
 

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Very well done OP.

You obviously have totally-sick fabrication talent to even dare to take something like this on.

The gun looks amazing.
 

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How do you know "it feeds great" if you "have not fired it yet"?

Good job getting it together. Might need some practice on the welds, though.
 

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While it's an interesting bit of history and something you are not likely to see at the range, the rifle was basically a POS according to your linked article.
Yeah it was not a success, although I think it's a solid design that maybe could have had some value if they continued to develop. The whole custom magazine thing seemed really silly considering all the mags available at the time.

How do you know "it feeds great" if you "have not fired it yet"?

Good job getting it together. Might need some practice on the welds, though.
I meant to say it feels great in terms of being lightweight and well balanced in the hand, as well as being very slim. Reports are that it doesn't have much recoil but I'll be able to weigh in on that soon. I really wonder about accuracy, the barrels for these things are just cut down US made HK 33 barrels. I should say "re-profiled" to be more accurate.

It "feeds" great with tons of blanks through it.

The welds are my TIG "speed" welds, I wish I could have taken more time but we are on the clock in California to get things done before the new year, and I want to put some extra care into my last build- an MSG/PSG1 style rifle.
 

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Have any pics of your builds and welds?
I don't build HKs but I do weld. One of you in every croud isn't there.

OP, I understand fully so congrats on your build, wish you the best on your follow up build. Looking forward to a range report on this one and pics of the new build once complete. Or better yet, in progress pics!
 

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I don't build HKs but I do weld. One of you in every croud isn't there.

OP, I understand fully so congrats on your build, wish you the best on your follow up build. Looking forward to a range report on this one and pics of the new build once complete. Or better yet, in progress pics!


Always one of the"I would have done it this way or that if it was my build, but I don't build, so I send it out" In every group.
 

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Continue to sht in the op's thread and prove to everyone how little you are. Good job.

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