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The many shades of RAL8000...

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This is only a start, but as more "RAL8000" parts become available in the US, I -- and I suspect many of you -- have started tracking the many shades of RAL8000. While this still is a developing story, based on my recollection and my review of Google pictures, I've compiled the following table and visual glossary. It may not be authoritative, but at least its a start. (Obviously, different cameras and different lighting greatly affect representation of these colors in photographs, but I think generally these categories are legit.)

Glossary:
The table uses "brown" to denote the dark "chocolate" color first used when the HK416A5 began appearing a few years back:



The table uses "burnt bronze" (Cerakote H-148) to denote the somewhat lighter form of metalic brown that is common now on HK weapons, but is clearly not RAL8000 as seen on the pistol grip here:



The table uses "green" to denote a similar form of metalic color, but one which is more green than brown. So far, I've only seen it on the HK416A5, and then, mostly on rails. In fact, I think another HKPro member has such a rail in this particular shade of green up for auction on GunBroker. Here are some pictures that capture the difference between the burnt bronze (upper receiver) and green (rail):





The table uses "RAL8000" (Cerakote H-8000) to denote the yellowish-brown color that is often described as similar to baby poop.



Of course, this category by itself is quite broad on its own, as HK has been all over the yellowish-brown map with parts of late (stocks, grips, rail covers), sometimes even within the same part. Currently, RKS Plus is having a fire sale on mismatched SlimLine stocks:



So like I said, this table is just the start. To date, I haven't really found any rhyme or reason between the various colors HK denotes as "RAL8000," or even between the various shades within the yellow-brown of RAL8000 that HK uses for parts. Within each category where more than one color appears, I have listed the most commor color first. As folks move beyond basic black to accessorize their weapons, hopefully some will find this table of use:

Table:

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One of the side discussions on the last tour of HK was the different variations of RAL8000. The RAL8000 MP5 had at least three different shades, one for plastic, one for aluminum, and a third for scopes and their accessories. Seems that, even using one color, the end result looks completely different based on the material involved.
 

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Not a fan but we all have different likes. For me the HK black gives a certain ominous/attractive look.
 

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One of the side discussions on the last tour of HK was the different variations of RAL8000. The RAL8000 MP5 had at least three different shades, one for plastic, one for aluminum, and a third for scopes and their accessories. Seems that, even using one color, the end result looks completely different based on the material involved.
I'm not a metalurgist, but I agree that different materials render the RAL8000 color differently. That can easily be seen with the G28 receiver (which is steel) and the HK417 receiver (which is aluminum) which have a very different look. But to me, that difference in materials is one of degree and reflection. I think the more significant color differences between the broad groupings of yellow-brown, burnt bronze, and green, are not entirely explained by different materials or surface treatments. They appear to be using different colors all together. HK makes aluminum rails in each of those three different color sets. Even the polymer parts, like the SlimLine stocks, show color variation between pieces (or among the piece itself if you look at the RKS stocks). I'm not sure why HK does not appear to acknowledge that its "RAL8000" is at least three different broad color groupings (with variations within each grouping for sure). But at the end of the day, I like the different shades too.
 

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Reviving this thread to add that I recently had an upper/lower cerakoted and did my best guess to try and match what would have been the original HK416 brown. I went with the relatively new 'Vortex Bronze'. It turned out really well, the color looks blah until you start adding other colors, and which point it really pops. I've done the Gray Room tour but it's been years since I've seen an original HK416, but I feel like this is relatively close. It's probably has a bit too much purple/plum in it, but certainly something I could match a cut-down MR556 upper with.

Here are some pics with an HK416 RAL8000 grip and black furniture for contrast; indoors with artificial lighting, with flash, indirect and direct sunlight. Perhaps someone will a little more stick time with a brown HK416 can comment.

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Reviving this thread to add that I recently had an upper/lower cerakoted and did my best guess to try and match what would have been the original HK416 brown. I went with the relatively new 'Vortex Bronze'. It turned out really well, the color looks blah until you start adding other colors, and which point it really pops. I've done the Gray Room tour but it's been years since I've seen an original HK416, but I feel like this is relatively close. It's probably has a bit too much purple/plum in it, but certainly something I could match a cut-down MR556 upper with.

Here are some pics with an HK416 RAL8000 grip and black furniture for contrast; indoors with artificial lighting, with flash, indirect and direct sunlight. Perhaps someone will a little more stick time with a brown HK416 can comment.

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Quite nice!!! :biggrin:
I will stick with the one shade of black. :wink:

Tony
 
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