You lost me a little bit. You are comparing a 40 cal Glock to a 9mm HK Expert? As far as I know you cannot convert a G35 to shoot 9mm, the slide is different and breech face, extractor set up made for the larger 40 cal case. I've been shooting Glocks for the past 12 years, and own several myself, including a G34, the 9mm tactical/practical version of the G35. It's not as simple as swapping barrels unless you are going for the bottle-necked .357 SIG in a 40 cal weapon or a wildcat load like the 440 Cor-Bon shot from a 45 auto. Okay, now back to answer your original question... I have fired both the G34 (own it) and a G35. The 9mm G34 is the better of the two in my opinion, the recoil is mild, ammunition is cheaper, capacity greater by two (if that matters), and lastly the accuracy is among THE best 9mm has to offer. On to the HK Expert... this weapon dwarfs the competition, in fact there probably isn't any, and I am an owner of several makes other than HKs (so not totally partial or biased). We're talking about something that retails for twice as much as the Glock. I have fired a 45 Expert and it was as smooth as could be and equally accurate. It could easily compete and hold its own against any high dollar 1911 target pistol of your choosing. I guess it comes down to how much you want to spend.
USP 9mm Expert or Glock 35??
You guys know the pluses and minuses. The Glock 35 can be easily converted to 9mm, the USP can't be converted to 40mm. 9mm is what I want. I will likely want to change out barrels anyway to to shoot lead.
O will use the pistol to shoot about 15K rounds a year at the range. Also, use in various competitions.
Please help with choice!!! I know this is an HK site and the advice may be biased (or maybe not). Right now I think the G35 is superior, definetly in price of both the initial purchase of the gun and mags.
THANKKKKKKKS!!!
O will use the pistol to shoot about 15K rounds a year at the range. Also, use in various competitions.
Please help with choice!!! I know this is an HK site and the advice may be biased (or maybe not). Right now I think the G35 is superior, definetly in price of both the initial purchase of the gun and mags.
THANKKKKKKKS!!!
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This may be a stupid question, but when 9mm is what you want, then why buy a .40 cal Glock in the first place?You guys know the pluses and minuses. The Glock 35 can be easily converted to 9mm, the USP can't be converted to 40mm. 9mm is what I want. I will likely want to change out barrels anyway to to shoot lead.
Actually HK does make conversion kits for the USP line, whereas Glock does not. The downside is of course that HK does only offer them in Germany, and even if they were exported to the US, nobody would buy them anyway, as they cost as much as an entire gun. But they do make them.
I know I will sound biased now, but what other advantages does the Glock offer besides its low price?Mouseboy said:O will use the pistol to shoot about 15K rounds a year at the range. Also, use in various competitions.
Please help with choice!!! I know this is an HK site and the advice may be biased (or maybe not). Right now I think the G35 is superior, definetly in price of both the initial purchase of the gun and mags.
Anyway, IMHO buying a gun has never been a rational decision anyway, so get the gun that suits you best and have fun with it.
You can look around for it, but as for round count, a member here 50AE has put over 100,000 rounds through his USP 45f only changing the recoil spring once at 80,000 rounds (tho he admitted he should have changed it around the 50,000-ish mark or sooner)
The HK is +p rated, and will take everything you can throw at it. Whereas a .40 cal glock (especially with shooting that much, if you want to reload for the best accuracy and lowest cost) your risking a KB, whereas the HK's more supported chamber is safer for reloaded ammunition. I do not know if the glock is +p rated, but the USP is!
The USP's match trigger is awesome, only surpassed by high end 1911 triggers... and is a match grade competition pistol out of the box. No mods or altering required. You can add the Jet funnel for the 9 and .40 cal versions for faster reloads and more capacity (16 rounds of .40 rather than 13)
If you want to put lead through it, try it out first. MOST people do not have problems with HARD CAST lead, although it is more of a hassle for cleaning. If the barrel starts to lead up too quickly, then dont shoot it. The glock will be the same way.
Aftermarket barrels are fairly slim for the USP, as there is not much need for better ones, but Jarvis does offer them. Not sure if they make any for the USP expert series, but they are every bit as accurate, and conventional rifling for shooting lead.
Good luck, the USP Expert may be twice as much, but it will be worth every penny!
The HK is +p rated, and will take everything you can throw at it. Whereas a .40 cal glock (especially with shooting that much, if you want to reload for the best accuracy and lowest cost) your risking a KB, whereas the HK's more supported chamber is safer for reloaded ammunition. I do not know if the glock is +p rated, but the USP is!
The USP's match trigger is awesome, only surpassed by high end 1911 triggers... and is a match grade competition pistol out of the box. No mods or altering required. You can add the Jet funnel for the 9 and .40 cal versions for faster reloads and more capacity (16 rounds of .40 rather than 13)
If you want to put lead through it, try it out first. MOST people do not have problems with HARD CAST lead, although it is more of a hassle for cleaning. If the barrel starts to lead up too quickly, then dont shoot it. The glock will be the same way.
Aftermarket barrels are fairly slim for the USP, as there is not much need for better ones, but Jarvis does offer them. Not sure if they make any for the USP expert series, but they are every bit as accurate, and conventional rifling for shooting lead.
Good luck, the USP Expert may be twice as much, but it will be worth every penny!
Thanks, especially for the heads up on the Expert,......You lost me a little bit. You are comparing a 40 cal Glock to a 9mm HK Expert? As far as I know you cannot convert a G35 to shoot 9mm, the slide is different and breech face, extractor set up made for the larger 40 cal case. I've been shooting Glocks for the past 12 years, and own several myself, including a G34, the 9mm tactical/practical version of the G35. It's not as simple as swapping barrels unless you are going for the bottle-necked .357 SIG in a 40 cal weapon or a wildcat load like the 440 Cor-Bon shot from a 45 auto. Okay, now back to answer your original question... I have fired both the G34 (own it) and a G35. The 9mm G34 is the better of the two in my opinion, the recoil is mild, ammunition is cheaper, capacity greater by two (if that matters), and lastly the accuracy is among THE best 9mm has to offer. On to the HK Expert... this weapon dwarfs the competition, in fact there probably isn't any, and I am an owner of several makes other than HKs (so not totally partial or biased). We're talking about something that retails for twice as much as the Glock. I have fired a 45 Expert and it was as smooth as could be and equally accurate. It could easily compete and hold its own against any high dollar 1911 target pistol of your choosing. I guess it comes down to how much you want to spend.
Yes, you can convert a G35 to a 9mm by changing out the barrel with a specially designed conversion barrel. You can use your 9mm mags in a converted G35 and no other modifications are necessary - although some folks change out the extractor
I have a Glock 35, and once had a USP 9-I currently have a USP 40 and 45.
IMO, the USP 45 is better than all of them (when cocked and locked).
The only thing I like about the Glock is I can do a mag change without chaning my grip. With the USP 9 and 40, the grip is too short and if I don't move my hand, I pinch it.
I can't see to shoot more than a hundred rounds through my Glock without my trigger finger turning purple from rubbing on the inside the trigger guard. Not a problem with the USP 9.
The USP 9 I did have, was a tack driver with an easy to handle recoil. Better than my BHP. Can't say the same for the Glock.
I would suggest the USP 9 Expert with a Jet Funnel. That is a sweet set-up.
IMO, the USP 45 is better than all of them (when cocked and locked).
The only thing I like about the Glock is I can do a mag change without chaning my grip. With the USP 9 and 40, the grip is too short and if I don't move my hand, I pinch it.
I can't see to shoot more than a hundred rounds through my Glock without my trigger finger turning purple from rubbing on the inside the trigger guard. Not a problem with the USP 9.
The USP 9 I did have, was a tack driver with an easy to handle recoil. Better than my BHP. Can't say the same for the Glock.
I would suggest the USP 9 Expert with a Jet Funnel. That is a sweet set-up.
For the price of 1 Expert9, you can buy both a G34 AND a G35. Or you can spend the same money for a completely tricked out 34/35 that will far out shoot the Expert and have a much, much better trigger.
Don't think about price, save up so you could afford either and then make up your mind. Don't waste money by thinking you're saving it upfront with a cheaper purchase and then not being happy with it.
Someone is bored today, resurrecting a one year old thread.
Not really a Glock guy but have shot 'em and don't really have anything against them ...but....my Expert 9 is my second best 9mm shooter next to my Elite but it is very close. PS...I have a Sig X-5 too!
Hey folks-
Can someone tell me if HK still makes a USP 9mm Expert?
On their site I only see the USP Expert .45 and .40
http://www.hk-usa.com/products.html
Can someone tell me if HK still makes a USP 9mm Expert?
On their site I only see the USP Expert .45 and .40
http://www.hk-usa.com/products.html
They still make it, you just can't buy one.
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