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USP Compact .45 bedside WML preference

633 views 23 replies 16 participants last post by  DragonHerder  
#1 ·
Looking to take a poll on what the forum prefers from a bedside WML standpoint. I have a TLR-3 (1st Gen without the aluminum silver ring around the bezel) and a TLR-7 HLX w/ Mr. NEIN JR. Please see pictured and let me know your thoughts.
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#5 ·
I believe @HKPRO and others offer classes for using a light. They may offer advice on what to look for when you use the light in your home to help you to decide.
Different lights cast different "beams"; has a lot to do with how and where you're using it.
Inside a 1-BR apartment with white walls versus inside St. Josaphat Basilica...

Nothing wrong with a less expensive light; lotsa people use them successfully BUT, of those, how many get used regularly? Consider that some people have a higher tolerance for failure, too.
Drive an older British car (Lucas electronics: The Prince of Darkness) for a year and let me know what your opinion on cheap lights becomes 😉.
 
#6 ·
I believe @HKPRO and others offer classes for using a light. They may offer advice on what to look for when you use the light in your home to help you to decide.
Different lights cast different "beams"; has a lot to do with how and where you're using it.
Inside a 1-BR apartment with white walls versus inside St. Josaphat Basilica...
I hear what you’re saying. The output and beam pattern on the two options presented are significantly different from each other. One using a lower output (by today’s standards) and a reflector to distribute the light versus the modern torch with 7-8x the output and a TIR lens for optimum throw.

I guess all this to say that I guess I answered my own question. If I’m using this as a bedside pistol then I don’t need throw or high output, especially with the white walls you mentioned (3br cape cod - primary upstairs).

I do also keep flashlights by the beside with a moonlight mode (Zebralight SC53n for anyone curious) and a max output of 210lm which is likely more than the TLR-3. I also keep a Malkoff Hounddog 18650 as well.

Anyway I’m going on a tangent. I appreciate your response!
 
#11 ·
X300 Turbo for me, but a handgun is not my chosen firearm for defending the home.

Regardless, modern lighting technology not only helps us gather information, it can also serve as an effective aiming tool. I actually wrote a condensed article a few years back that’s still relevant today, however, it’s more handheld focused.

 
#16 ·
Not sure if this is a real question or a flex (pun not intended but welcomed).
The TLR 3 is a well made light but very dated. Some people will (either by truly believing it or just applying cope to not justify coming out of pocket to keep up) that the TLR3 is all the light you will ever need. The industry has moved on for reasons to:
Lights like the TLRHLX which is an absolutely modern-for-now light but (as with WMLs) it too will no doubt be outdated sooner than later. But for now and probably a few years it is likely to remain about as good as you can get. However….as with any gun using one with an adapter, the controls are compromised as they are lower than optimal. You can work with if you want to stay with that gun but still, it’s a compromise.
For bedside presumably holsters aren’t a problem because good luck with one for either.
Even with the compromised paddle placement with the adapter/Streamlight combo….I wouldn’t go with the TLR7HLX and would not be using a TLR3 (or any other light from its era) currently. For a collection though older lights are very cool and becoming quite collectible. The TLR3s were always inexpensive options so kinda meh as a collectible but still cool.
 
#17 ·
Not sure if this is a real question or a flex (pun not intended but welcomed).
The TLR 3 is a well made light but very dated. Some people will (either by truly believing it or just applying cope to not justify coming out of pocket to keep up) that the TLR3 is all the light you will ever need. The industry has moved on for reasons to:
Lights like the TLRHLX which is an absolutely modern-for-now light but (as with WMLs) it too will no doubt be outdated sooner than later. But for now and probably a few years it is likely to remain about as good as you can get. However….as with any gun using one with an adapter, the controls are compromised as they are lower than optimal. You can work with if you want to stay with that gun but still, it’s a compromise.
For bedside presumably holsters aren’t a problem because good luck with one for either.
Even with the compromised paddle placement with the adapter/Streamlight combo….I wouldn’t go with the TLR7HLX and would not be using a TLR3 (or any other light from its era) currently. For a collection though older lights are very cool and becoming quite collectible. The TLR3s were always inexpensive options so kinda meh as a collectible but still cool.
That's because the USP itself is outdated due to it's mounting system, and you can thank H&K for that. "No Compromise", except when it comes to milling a simple slot in their Universal Rail which is all it really needs to accept modern accessories. It's a shame. I wouldn't say the TLR1 HLX will be outdated, not for a long time. Lights don't evolve that fast, especially when big companies like Surefire stagnate. They stagnated for a good 15 years and for a few Streamlight was beating them at their own game (lumen, candela output).