Put me on the list.
Thanks for doing this

Doc

 

I’ll buy!! Will you make one for compacts?

 

I just saw they are different. I’ll start looking for an MR08 for compacts. I’ll make both, the market is likely there to make each.

 

I’d be interested in one.

 

GG and G are fine and plenty good but the SF were made better. Mainly the 7000 series aluminum in the SF vs 6000. Much stronger. Definitely cool/the ones to have if you like collecting HKs.

 

Hey HK people. I thought I would show you a comparison of the GG&G USP rail adapter vs the Surefire MR09 rail adapter for the H&K USP when using an X300 Surefire light.

For a long while, I just accepted that the GG&G rail was the only affordable and decent option. I used it on my USP for 6 months and just found that my hands were not big enough to really reach the switch in front of the trigger guard. I could activate it, but it was not easy to get to.

I found (and severely overpaid for) a new surefire MR09 adapter on ebay last week, and it is a much nicer mount than the GG&G, plus it moves the x300 backward enough that I can easily get to the switch with my medium sized hands.

Here is a picture comparison for those curious.

9mm USP expert with GG&G adapter and X300:

9mm USP Expert with Surefire MR09 adapter and X300:

9mm USP Expert with GG&G adapter and X300 with hand and activation finger length:

9mm USP Expert with Surefire MR09 adapter and X300 with hand activation finger length:

You can see that the MR09 tucks the light closer to the trigger guard making light activation much easier for my hand size.

I'm currently bugging Surefire to sell the CAD drawing of the adapter to me for a reproduction run of them. They have not been responsive. Should they chose not to sell me the product, I'll reverse engineer it, change it by 10% and knock it off for the community. The gray market has driven pricing into the stratosphere, and I'd like to make this an affordable option again.

Thoughts?

Just do it, @gator33, Lobos industries and I just ripped off the SF design these two guys just made changes aesthetically for the MK23.

 

Yes you way overpaid for that on EBay! You outbid me!

 

I had to have it for reverse engineering. They come up infrequently.

 

Streamlight 69222 TLR-3 for the USP is another choice?

 

Streamlight 69222 TLR-3 for the USP is another choice?
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Personally, I'm a "surefire or die" guy myself. We looked into doing a TLR-type key when developing the Mk23 adapter with Lobos, but it wouldn't work due to the captive screw required on the front of the trigger guard.

You aren't impeded by that with the USP. I'd think developing a sort of drop in TLR-type key for the SureFire B-series lights might make more sense. It would bring the light closer to the gun, cut weight, reduce failure points, and potentially hold zero better if using an X400/X400V. Just a thought 😉

 

One thing I'd be curious on before you put in the effort, is where does the SF X300U land on the GG&G rail when you remove the wedge from the backplate? Can you move it to the rear one more notch?

I've never tried this with the USP + GG&G Adapter.

On the backplate of the X300U, there are 4 small pins holding a wedge in place:

By removing these pins, you are able to remove this wedge from the backplate:

With the wedge removed, the backplate can straddle the trigger guard. The X300U on your GG&G adapter looks a little bit further forward than it should be. Maybe removing the wedge would allow it to go one more slot to the rear and give you what you're looking for?

 

Hey everyone-

Wanted to give an update. I have not yet found an MR08 surefire USP compact adapter to reverse engineer. I have finalized the MR09 surefire adapter however and I'm sending the CAD file out for quoting. I don't know how big the market actually is, so I'm going to start with a very small production run of only 100 units. I am toying with the idea of making 5 of them in a RAL8000 and 5 anodized in OD Green. Mostly they will be 7075 aluminum and type 3 hardcoat anodized in black.

There is no laser etching on these, so they won't look like an exact replica, but the part is dimensionally the same as the factory Surefire part.

Here is a quick CAD drawing of it. I'll update when I have lead times and pricing from the machine shop.

I'm also toying with the idea of severely overpaying for a Knight's Armament MP5 optic mount and making a reproduction without the markings so we can get them for under $500 again. Any one interested in that project?

 

I'd be interested in an MR-09 replica, especially if RAL8000. Do you have any ballpark of pricing on these? I think you'll have a hard time competing with GG&G pricing and may end up well above what the MR retailed for originally.

 

This is definitely interesting, can't wait to see how they turn out.

 

Definitely interested in this and the KAC optic mount.

 

I just got a USP9 with the SF 09 adapter already on it BUT my X300U does not lock in place, does not go on far enough to engage. Any ideas? Thanks. The previous owner had an Inforce on it no issue.

 

Got a picture?

 

More wanting to see the light mounted and what that looks like.

Ok, actually do not want to use the 300U as it sticks out too far past the barrel but was checking fitment on the rail.

 

+1 for a USP Compact.

 

Hopefully you can get the MR08 design going as well! I’d definitely buy a few.

 

I'd be interested in both an MR08 and MR09. Definitely prefer the look and feel of the lobos mount and always wished someone would recreate for the USPs

 

I'm def down for 1, maybe 2 mr09. The prices are crazy on them and SF loves to stop making items we need

 

Can't wait to see how they turn out.

 

Unfortunately I just purchased the GG&G. But I d do a MR09, possibly two and even though I don’t own a USP Compact yet, I do intend on owning one in both 9 an 45. Thanks for spearheading demand in a niche market.

 

For what it's worth, the XSC and TLR-7 are solid options for the HK45c.

 

FYI Wright Armory’s adapter will set you back about $395

Cheaper to go with the hell cat or just give up on Surefire all together. I just found out they made a full rail adapter like the one for the USP for military contract but no civilian love.

 

Appreciate the info.That is ridiculous. i’ve spent retarded money on **** before. Only way I would ever do it is if I found a German HK45CT and started making a MK24-ish load out. Absent of the laser and going with an X300.

 

Update for everyone:

I have shopped this part to 15 machine shops (all USA based, will not go overseas) and not a single one can get the costs low enough to compete with the gray market price. At the moment the lowest I can get it made, anodized, and packed for shipping is $195.00.
So my plans to expand this to MR08 is off the table (engineering costs are $5k to reverse engineer it) so I’ll make a small batch of 100 parts and call it a bust. I just want to recover my investment at this point and get out.
I’ve ordered my parts and it’s looking like March is when they will be ready. Will not be doing any colors other than black because of high costs to change colors for such a small batch.
Not the news you were all hoping for I’m sure.

 

How can I get on the list??

thank you

 

+1 for me if they are not all spoken for. Thanks.

 

I would like 1 if they're not all spoken for. Thank you.

 

I will take one, if still available.