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I took my brand new v51 to the range last night for the first time and it failed to eject rounds. In fact after firing the first round I could hardly get the charging handle back...I had to tap it with a mallet to get it back and get the carrier out. This happend with all 4 rounds I tried...I gave up after that. Each time I would have to completely disassemble the gun and tap out the carrier. The ammo was SA surplus that I run through my G3 non-clone with zero malfunctions.

When I took the carrier out the brass was still in the bolt head.

Also the mags were ones I have used before as well (sidebar: mags are VERY difficult to get in and out...AL and Steel). I switched mags hoping for a simple fix.

The bolt head, extractor and spring looked brand new...fyi.

Also I left in the vector grease as instructed but after lockup I also hosed it down with CLP...again hoping for an easy fix.

Please no "clone bashing" it is a vector/top of the clone heap IMHO...and this is "clone talk section"...and while this is my first clone it isn't my first HK...

Other than the non eject issue should I be concerned about my receiver now being damaged from "unlocking" with mallet...I was as gentle as I could be considering the situation.

I haven't contacted Vector yet as this happened last night and I'm hoping there is something "easy" I can do...did I mention this is a BRAND NEW gun?!? Makes for one heck of a single shot if you don't need a follow up.

Can anyone ease my pain?? All help would be greatly appreciated!!

thanks for all your help

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with out any ammunition in it does it function check ok??? does the bolt go back all the way can you lock it in the j hook?

the only thing i've ever seen to have a problem on a V51 is the colapseing recoil spring assembly is bent or not seating correctly so when the gun is fired it binds up and causes the bolt to stick.

my stock fell off the bench one day and got a little tweaked and it was acting simmiler to yours but not quite as drastic when i put the
A3 stock on the problem went away thats when i noticed the bent spring rod on the A2

i have also seen a brand new one out of the box with a .223 ejector lever installed instead of a .308 but the gun wouldent cock and vector promptly sent the correct lever free of charge

good luck!
 

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2 more things, clean the chamber very well with a .45 cal brush. It should be bone dry afterwards, any oil residue will lock it up like you described. Also check the ejector ride height inside the bolt head, the front of the trigger pack may need shimming, this is very common with all clones, even with JLD receivers.

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These are both great ideas. Thanks for the quick response as my blood pressure was still pretty high this morning...must back off on the coffee...that and coming home with loaded mags just bums me out.

I will try them when I get home. The collaping recoil could be an issue...a3 stock. I'll make sure the chamber is clean and dry...also could be an issue as I know there was a ton of vector-grease everywhere and may have gotten into the chamber.

If anyone else has other ideas, keep them coming. I hope these will take care of it however.

Thanks again...and to HKPro for the board.

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if you cant get it working give vector a call they have really awesome customer service.

the V51 is a really cool weapon and i wouldent sell mine for the world (well maby a mark23) once you get yours working trust me you'll love it
 

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if you cant get it working give vector a call they have really awesome customer service.

the V51 is a really cool weapon and i wouldent sell mine for the world (well maby a mark23) once you get yours working trust me you'll love it
Plus 1. Tinker a bit and problem will be resolved. Probably an ejector or pack height issue. I have V51 SBR and it became one of my favorite weapons immediately. Just relax and call Vector with your problem. They will make it right!
 

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If you keep having the problem with bringing home still-loaded mags, you can always get one of those mag unloaders. :)

Don't worry, you'll get it figured out. There are enough other people here with V51s, I'm sure someone else has already had the same problem and worked it out.
 

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Just to clear things up does the bolt carrier move back when you shoot or stays put? The failure to extract was one of the initial problems in developing the G3. They solved the problems by fluting the barrel. On my build the problem was ejecting and the jam was with two rounds I use SA ammo too. I fixed it by moving the trigger pack up raising the ejector. If the spent case is not extracting and is seizing in the barrel you may have something wrong with the barrel. With any well made products you sometimes have a lemon, It is inevitable no matter how good the intention otherwise. I would consider asking them for another one....Just my opinion.
 

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The carrier doesn't move back but stays in battery after fired.

Last night I check the chamber and there was a bit of lube there. Bspringfield mentioned that this may be the problem. So I hope to go to the range to night to check this out.

I'll post when I figure this out...

thanks for all the replies
 

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I'd check the bolt gap while you're at it. And does it cycle ammo into and out of the chamber fine without shooting it?
 

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This may sound crazy, but is the cocking tube straight? My buddys V51 was extemely difficult to charge, and it would not reliably run at all. The problem was a slightly crooked charging tube. Vector worked with him on the problem; they have very good customer service. He sent the pistol back and they replaced it with a new one.

FWIW every production clone I have ever owned has needed tinkering. The only exception was a clone build by Jayson Cotter @ IGF. He built me a perfect running G3k on a S$(he who can not be named) receiver. In the end clones built by custom gunsmiths may cost a bit more, but they are the best way to go if you do not want to trouble shoot it yourself.

www.investmentgradefirearms.com

Also Gordon Miller has pre-built customized clones for sale too:

www.hkspecialist.net

Good luck!
 

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+1 to all the advice from above, but if you can see oil/grease in the chamber...I'd betcha thats it. I had an HK33 that did the same thing.

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Answer is...

...Lube in the chamber. +++1 for Bspringfield.

Thanks to all you guys for the help.

I went to the range after "cleaning the chamber" today. First round...FTE...dang. So I went up to the store (upstairs from range) and the guys there said they had some degreaser...at this point figure why not. Sprayed some just in the chamber and then ran a couple of patches thru the barrel.

Went back to the line and flipped her on E boom and ding the round ejected like a scalded cat...flipper her over to "f"un and boom boom boom...faster than that of course. I ran another 4 mags on Fun and nary a hiccup...Just like Bill said make sure the chamber is really clean and dry...

Now my teeth hurt from the precussion, my arms are tired from keeping it under control and my jaws hurt from grinning like a fool!!!

The guys at the range of course were tripping out as they didn't realize that the "F" was real on the lower...nothing like a 9" 7.62 indoors on rock and roll

Thanks again for all the advice!

Still grinning!:13::13:

hk_mtbr
 
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