[nhyrum]

So I'm having this odd issue.

Any ammo, factory or hand loaded, I can fit 15 rounds in easy. But Speer 124 grain+p (factory) I can only fit 14,barely 15 if I CRAM. It's a consistent issue, across all mags. The 15th, when I can fit it, when the mag is inserted, makes the slide hard to rack. They chamber fine, what would make them not fit? It's not like I'm loading 40, and since they chamber fine, I know they're not over sized or anything... Weird.

Looks like, sadly, I won't be carrying gold dots... :/

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[Sombra]

Does this happen in all of your VP9 mags? I've never heard of this... None of my VP9 mags has ever presented this problem with any kind of ammo.

Consider disassembling the magazine, cleaning it out, and reassembling.

 

[nhyrum]

Yep, all of them. That's the first thing I tried.

It's so weird... I don't even get what could possibly be happening

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[Graves14]

Are they new mags? Just stiff? Are you using a loader or just your fingers?

 

[JonFrost]

Strange. One thing I like about hks is they may have lower capacity mags than some others but they always load and feed reliably. If it's just one brand of ammo then that would seem to be the issue. I'll be interested to hear what happens.

 

[Jakemd98]

wonder if the nickle case is a tiny bit thicker than brass

 

[nhyrum]

Are they new mags? Just stiff? Are you using a loader or just your fingers?

I bought the gun used, so they're used mags. Using the loader that came with the gun(the Hk one) the tooth that pushes the round down is actually beginning to bend to one side because I'm cramming so hard.

wonder if the nickle case is a tiny bit thicker than brass

I think all the ammo I bought was all nickel plated. I ran about 6 different brands of defense ammo though, no other brand had issues, other than one Winchester pdx1 not fully going into battery

If it's just one brand of ammo then that would seem to be the issue. I'll be interested to hear what happens.

Yep, just the one brand. I was hoping to carry it too, cause the Speer gold dot is basically the only bonded HP that can be found as loaded Factory and as just the component, so I can load similar performing practice ammo and carry factory.

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[bauerdb]

Maybe a pic of the gold dots next to the ball ammo? Maybe a bullet profile difference?

 

[nhyrum]

Maybe a pic of the gold dots next to the ball ammo? Maybe a bullet profile difference?

I'll try to snap a picture tomorrow. I thought about that too, but how would that affect how many rounds fit in a magazine? I've unloaded and reloaded multiple times, smacking the bottom and back of the mag to make sure the spring isn't binding, etc

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[chrischoi]

Have calipers?

 

[nhyrum]

Have calipers?

Sure do

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[Condition0]

Sure do

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Measure your oaw and oal.

 

[Josefius]

Try an uplula mag loader.

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[Sombra]

Measure your oaw and oal.

That's what she said. Hah! ����

 

[nhyrum]

Measure your oaw and oal.

I'll do that. But, if the rounds are even .005 bigger, not only would they not chamber (they all do, in fact, chamber) with 14 that would only be a difference of about 1/16 inch, or .07 inches, which I have more that that much extra space with 15 of any other ammo brand

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[Crazymailman]

Could it be a length issue with the front of the rounds dragging in the inside of the mag?

 

[Llando88]

Interesting.

Never had that problem, or heard of it, with GD.

Just one thing though: I use a Barney mag to chamber a round, remove it, then load my full magazine with SD ammo.

A Barney mag is just a mag with one round.

That way, you aren't trying to cram the 15th round in all the time.

 

[Klaustrophobia]

It would be weird if this was a 100% occurrence problem, but sometimes the rounds don't stagger right when loading. Have you tried giving it a good whack to see if they settle out and make room for the 15th? Usually more a problem with steel but maybe the cases of those tend to stick to each other. Crazymailman might also be on to something with the front of the rounds scraping.

 

[dale1970]

I use speer GD 124 +p with my 9mm guns and do not have that issue with any of the 5 vp9/p30 mags I have.

 

[nhyrum]

It would be weird if this was a 100% occurrence problem, but sometimes the rounds don't stagger right when loading. Have you tried giving it a good whack to see if they settle out and make room for the 15th? Usually more a problem with steel but maybe the cases of those tend to stick to each other. Crazymailman might also be on to something with the front of the rounds scraping.

I have reloaded the mag a ton of times. Whacking the crap out of it after each round. They don't drag on the front of the mag either

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