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Just a personal observation...
The VP has got to be the cleanest running handgun I've experienced. It never ceases to amaze me whenever I get around to cleaning it (which is definitely not every time I run it) how clean it stays inside and out. This isn't the first time I've noticed this.

Spent quite a bit of time at the range a week ago emptying every last box I had so I could change ammunition type. I let 3 other people play with it while we all traded back and forth. I had another pistol with me as well and decided to clean them both today so I could spend another day at the range tomorrow morning.

I cleaned the "other one" first and it was a mess. Same ammo for both guns...But this first one has only seen a couple boxes total since new.
Pulled my VP apart and literally couldn't find anything to clean. It still had the lube in it.
I guess it has something to do with the stepped chamber? I don't know.

I'm trying 2 different ammunition brands in it tomorrow with 2 different bullet weights each. I'm looking for inexpensive ammo for competition without spending the money for custom rounds. I guess I'll see if the ammo I have been using is the reason it stays so clean. (115g Federal Champion from Wally world).
Also trying out different prescription safety glasses.

I'll revisit this thread and report on my findings.

Stay clean my friends.
 

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Try Perfecta from Walmart. It is good, cheap, clean burning ammo. I ran 200rds of various ammo through my VP9 suppressed and unsuppressed and it wasn't so clean. =)
 

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Having a hard time finding decent 124g and 147g to shoot on a regular basis locally. Been buying from the interwebs in bulk.
That's what tomorrow is for...to see if either are as clean and also if one can replace the Federal.
 

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Filthy...

1 box of Blazer 124g
1 box of Speer 124g
1 box of Speer 147g

The Speer is by far the filthiest ammo I've ever shot. Smoky and lots of sparks in both 124g and 147g. The inside of the gun was all black and sooty after only 100 rounds, and the barrel is disgusting. I could shoot 300 rounds of the Federal and not see a tenth of this amount of crud.

But I was more interested in how the Blazer and the Speer shot. I've never used either before today. I wanted to compare some 124g and 147g just for shootings sake. I did go through 500 rounds of 124g stuff made by USAC earlier this year. I liked it's quality and because it shot clean and consistent. But still too snappy for target shooting.

The Blazer shot clean today. Wish I'd gotten some in 147g.

Most of today's 150 rounds were done in 10-round increments at 10 yards. Only about 40 total were done at 7 yards.

I'm doing all this to come up with what everyone already knows... that 147g ammo is light-recoiling, smooth and great for follow-up or double-tap shots using a VP9. I wish I could get it in bulk locally. Also I think both of the Speers were more consistently accurate than the Blazer. The VP loved it and it hit where I aimed. The Blazer could be anywhere.
This mornings outing also had me changing my right-side panel to the Large.

So, take it for what it's worth. Love the Speer... hate the filth.

Oh, and I'm still trying to find safety glasses that are as close to my prescription bifocals as I can find. Nothing seems to work yet. I went from +.50 to +2.00 without luck. that front sight is still too blurry. Maybe another eye appointment is in order.
 

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Try Perfecta from Walmart. It is good, cheap, clean burning ammo. I ran 200rds of various ammo through my VP9 suppressed and unsuppressed and it wasn't so clean. =)
I work for WM at the home office. Perfecta is the best value ammo we sell by far. Highly recommended as I have bought plenty with the discount!
 

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Have you ever thought about reloading? I made a joint purchase of a Dillon RL550 progressive reloading press. I think we had just a little over $1,000 into it. For that price we are able to load 9mm and .40. I thought it won;ld reduce my ammo costs but, in reality, I just shoot more :74: I load 124 grn X-Treme bullets with Allient Unique powder. Works pretty good.
 

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I'd love to reload. Give me something to do all winter, and I could be a shooting scientist. ;)
The initial capitol costs are scary though.
 

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PMC seems to be the cleanest, I have found running in my VP9 115 gr or 124 gr for competition.
Chuck - this is interesting to hear. I have a MP5-SD coming and we all know how hard those are to clean so I have been looking for something that burns relatively clean.

It always amazes me that my MP5-40 always shoots exceedingly clean whereas the 9mm MP5s seem to shoot exceedingly dirty. Of course I haven''t tried PMC, but plan to give it a look. Probably in April when the Ohio weather becomes sub-artic again:)
 

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I'd love to reload. Give me something to do all winter, and I could be a shooting scientist. ;)
The initial capitol costs are scary though.
The initial cost is a bit high. That's why I went the "joint custody" route with a buddy of mine. The whole system paid for itself in about 2 years.
 
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