I haven’t seen a thread specifically addressing the VP9 A1. Does anyone have additional info?
VP9A1
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True. They haven’t changed anything but the length of that mag design since the USPC…and no reason they should.
So…since my first ask went so well, my second ask is compatibility with current VP9/SFP9 Safariland holsters…actual compatibility not “it seems to fit”...
Alas that is probably a bridge too far. The cheapest part of any new gun seems to be….the gun lol.
Yeah pretty sure HK fired the guy who suggested a P30A1 of further develop the P30 right after they took the company parking space from the guy who suggested a USPA1 lol.
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Let’s keep the discussion focused on the VP9A1, rather than shifting the conversation toward our personal preferences for other products that weren’t announced, or pistols that haven’t been updated.
According to what @German posted on another thread sales of the P30 are behind even the USP. He can correct me if I got that wrong.
Disclaimer- I like the P30 personally and it is the most modern hammer fired pistol they make but I don’t think it sells well in a striker fired world…
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So is this just going to be a compact VP9 or just an update?
the VP9 already has the same barrel length as a G19 IIRC, so I don’t know how they’ll make it anymore compact than just reducing the grip size.
the VP9 already has the same barrel length as a G19 IIRC, so I don’t know how they’ll make it anymore compact than just reducing the grip size.
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not having a “2020” update, optics cut, match, tactical or all of the color options is just digging it a grave.
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That's basically what S&W did with the M&P 2.0 Compact. The barrel is only 0.25" shorter than the most common full size M&P 9/40 models. Those pistols would've had 4.0" barrels like the S&W 5900 series if it weren't for Canada's 105mm minimum barrel length law.
The 2.0 Compact ended up being a much better selling product than the original, VP9SK sized, M&P 1.0 Compact (which got rebranded Subcompact for the 2.0 model), so there's certainly successful precedent for HK to do just what you said.
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The G19 size of pistol sells much better than the 'subcompact' size of duty-width pistols does, especially in a post slim frame/micro 9mm world.
HK can look at how G26 sales dropped over the years after the introduction of smaller major brand 9mm pistols. The S&W M&P 1.0 Compact had sales drop after the Shield came out, and the same sized 2.0 Subcompact never really caught on. P320 Subcompact sales tanked after the P365 came out, to the point where they're now mainly made in occasional batches for LE contracts.
Given the experiences of Glock, S&W, and SIG in the US market, HK likely expects the CC9 to gain new customers, but also to cannibalize VP9SK sales.
Now we know why the VP9s have been on sale.
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A lot actually. Just search this forum for VP9C.
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I think the sales are directed at increasing market share and moving the old stock(the not O.R. ready slides).
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Can't speak for everybody, but it solves a minor gripe I've had for years. And I do mean minor. It shortens the grip.
Already been beaten to death on this thread, but the VP9 is a hair bigger than a G19 in basically every dimension. The G19 is the sweet spot for pistol size for a LOT of people, myself included. Big enough to get a good handle on it, small enough to conceal all year 'round. If I had a slightly-shrunken VP9, I might be carrying that instead.
Downside is that, if it doesn't take regular VP9 mags, I won't be able to get standard capacity magazines. And if it does take VP9 mags, then I'm not sure if the grip size will be shorter at all.
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According to some dealer websites it looks like there's a:
VP9 A1 K (compact) - 4"/15 round
VP9 A1 F (full size) - 4.5"/17 round
Some also list "HLS"/"SCS" models priced over $1,000 which I assume come with the Holosun pre-installed. Probably safe to say that it's the same optic cut as the current VP9.
I'd be interested in the K model, it might hit a sweet spot between the current VP9 and the SK in terms of grip length. Intrigued to see what else is new to warrant the A1 designation rather than it simply being a "VP9 K"
VP9 A1 K (compact) - 4"/15 round
VP9 A1 F (full size) - 4.5"/17 round
Some also list "HLS"/"SCS" models priced over $1,000 which I assume come with the Holosun pre-installed. Probably safe to say that it's the same optic cut as the current VP9.
I'd be interested in the K model, it might hit a sweet spot between the current VP9 and the SK in terms of grip length. Intrigued to see what else is new to warrant the A1 designation rather than it simply being a "VP9 K"
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I would kill for a P30 OR slide 
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