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I'm a younger guy of only 25, so I missed out in the 80's before the 86' ban took effect. So everyone that were able to buy things cheap like HK's & sears really were able to clean up.

What type of weapons and or parts are very cheap today, but you guys think will sky rocket in value soon tommorow?

Is it just too late for a normal citizen to get ahold of anything that will jump in value like this?

Would it just be best to get a Class 3 license to buy and sell all kinds of firearms? Pistols, full autos etc.?

What is the total fees associated with getting this license?
 

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Read anything from either Feinstein or the Brady Campaign.

Especially if it's black and has pointy things on the end.
 

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Investment

Depends on the next election. Could be any gun you own.
 

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Quality, quality, qualtiy. There is always an appreciation for quality. In 30, 40, 50 years, the junk will be mostly broken and few will really want it. But a quality piece, well maintained and in excellent condition, will always have value.
After that, there is a fine line between popular and common. Popular holds a lot of value, while common tends to hold some, but less. Which will have value, a lot of that is in the eye of the beholder. and the difference between popular and fad, even harder to tell.
I would say, if you are looking to invest in something for the long term, invest in quality, and what appeals to you. It's easy to suggest "buy this" or "buy that". But if you buy items that have value to you, then you will enjoy having it while you do, and maybe you'll hit the right mix for the long term value too.
 

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1. Assault Rifles- The black evil kind with the pointy things on the end.

2. Semi Auto Pistols- All of them, especially ones with hi-cap mags.

3. High Capacity Magazines- Get a large box and fill it with every Hi-Cap
mag you can find. Especially ones like the 30rd Glock 9mm and 40 rd AR-15
mags.

It's only a matter of time. If not this election, then the next or the next.
Second Amendment rights in this country are circling the drain.
 

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If any of us could really predict the future then we would all be in Las Vegas and cleaning out the casinos. Part of buying what is going to be valuable in the future is luck... A big part. Plane and simple.

Why not a few barrels of oil?:65: TJ
 

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If any of us could really predict the future then we would all be in Las Vegas and cleaning out the casinos...

I'd be in New York City, on Wall St, at a place called the New York Stock
Exchange. I'd be cleaning out all the money on this planet, including Las
Vegas.:20000000:
 

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It's only a matter of time. If not this election, then the next or the next.
Second Amendment rights in this country are circling the drain.
I will follow District of Columbia v. Heller, No. 07-290 with bated breath. I am cautiously optimistic that this case will at least put more water in the tub.
 

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Obviously HK's will always gain in value, it's just amazing to think they will go up beyond the 3 & 4k mark that they are at now.

But look at the price of sears. What a dinky little piece of metal, and worth more than a brand new car in some instances!

You say semi-auto pistols - so they could perhaps be caught up in the ban?

So basically any non-revolver type of gun out there will warrant a super high dollar if the ban goes in effect?

I would assume all assault rifles & semi-auto pistols will all be grandfathered in to any new ban? Or would they ever require registered guns to be turned in to the government? (I suppose anything IS possible, but how realistic is that?)

What is a good assault rifle to invest in? There are millions of AR-15 variants on the market, what is a "cheap" price for a good solid rifle?

I have been told that AK's also can bring almost double their intial investment if you are able to find a good deal on them?

I have also been told about the Hi-cap mags. Can they bring a good return on your investment right now? Or are they cheap enough now that they are just worth investing in to hold on for a few years?

But where is the best place to find them? Here? Gunbroker? Gunshows? What price should I stay around in order to make it a worthwhile investment with a good chance of making some money shortly down the road?

Do metal Hi-caps bring more money to the table than plastic?

I'm going to start looking in the paper for guns locally & start calling around estate sales to see if there are any firearms for sale. That I think would be a good chance of finding a good deal on something no?

.50 will also bring a much higher return on your investment in the near future if a ban goes into effect won't they?
 

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I would also like to become a Class 3 dealer eventually.

1) to get better deals on firearms for myself

2) to be able to get better deals on firearms and then be able to sell them for a profit.

How much does the entire process cost to do all of the intial start up to get your license?

But I also plan on setting up a trust for my personal guns & NFA weapons to leave to my son & just make the overall purchase, easier & quicker. No CLEO sign off etc.

But if I purchase guns under a class 3 dealer license, am I able to then add them to the trust as my own?

Or do they actually belong to the dealer license therefore not allowing me to add items I purchase with/under my dealer license to my own personal trust?

Does this make sense?
 

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Guns as an investment tool may not be the wisest move you can make with your money. Most firearms appreciate in value over the very long term, but not all do and high yields are rare. You're better off putting your money in a solid mutual fund for 30 years and purchasing quality guns you like to shoot for that reason alone. If it turns out you've made a good purchase and can turn a profit more power to you. Otherwise you've at least owned fine weapons that bring you pleasure either at the range or in the field.
 

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I'm a younger guy of only 25, so I missed out in the 80's before the 86' ban took effect. So everyone that were able to buy things cheap like HK's & sears really were able to clean up.

What type of weapons and or parts are very cheap today, but you guys think will sky rocket in value soon tommorow?

Is it just too late for a normal citizen to get ahold of anything that will jump in value like this?

Would it just be best to get a Class 3 license to buy and sell all kinds of firearms? Pistols, full autos etc.?

What is the total fees associated with getting this license?
HK firearms were never cheap in the 1980s. In fact, I knew few people willing to pay $700 for an HK91 in 1980

Guns are not the greatest investment. They can be difficult to store and sell. They can be stolen or rust. There are many superior investments out there like stocks. Some folks have made a few $ investing in guns, however I suspect many will loose their shirt over time. I expect the prices of everything will be challenged in 2008 and 2009 with a nasty recession on the horizon. Stuff just isn't selling right now.........you can pick up some bargains in the EE
 

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I think it's a common misconception that people can just become a class 3 to buy whatever they want. You do in fact need to run a fulltime business otherwise you'll be slammed by the ATF when they come to check on your place of business. You cannot exactly sell a few guns out of your garage either.

I would also like to become a Class 3 dealer eventually.

1) to get better deals on firearms for myself

2) to be able to get better deals on firearms and then be able to sell them for a profit.

How much does the entire process cost to do all of the intial start up to get your license?

But I also plan on setting up a trust for my personal guns & NFA weapons to leave to my son & just make the overall purchase, easier & quicker. No CLEO sign off etc.

But if I purchase guns under a class 3 dealer license, am I able to then add them to the trust as my own?

Or do they actually belong to the dealer license therefore not allowing me to add items I purchase with/under my dealer license to my own personal trust?

Does this make sense?
 
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