What price ranges should we expect from POF and LW?
-ayan
Yea -- I just called LW for a quote. Their 14.5" SOC uppers chambered in .556 and 6.8 are $1430 and $1530 respectively.Just to give you an idea, my 14.5" LW was about $1200 after taxes. But, as I understand it, POF makes an upper in the $900 range, but even at that point if you look hard enough, you can find a PTR91 for the same amount. :94:
Do you have pics of the LW?Before I bought my LW I looked at it and the POF. The difference between the 2 is that the POF has plated internals and uses a gas system related to an FAL.
The LW has its internals coated, but IMO, it would have been nice if they plated it like the POF. The LW gas system is self regulating, so you can slap a supressor on and fire away. For the POF, you have to flip the piston.
Because of that, I'd say the LW is probably closer in operation to the HK, which is one of the reasons I picked it up.
The second reason is Customer Service and availability. POF did not return my emails or calls, but LW did, and promptly too.
They also spent a good amount of time with me on the phone just chewing the fat and helping me understand the system.
Regarding availability... (at this point and time) POF=Take a number, LW=Has some in stock and some of their dealers are currently stocked.
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Anyways, if you have the chance, go try and look at both. And while I may have sounded like I was a bit harsh on POF, I still kinda want one. I have 2 FAL's and I'm familiar with the system, so operating a POF should be the same. Talk about Black Rifle Disease!
Here is a link to a picture of the system and a description of its operation.Do you have pics of the LW?
Wow.Before I bought my LW I looked at it and the POF. The difference between the 2 is that the POF has plated internals and uses a gas system related to an FAL.
The LW has its internals coated, but IMO, it would have been nice if they plated it like the POF. The LW gas system is self regulating, so you can slap a supressor on and fire away. For the POF, you have to flip the piston.
Because of that, I'd say the LW is probably closer in operation to the HK, which is one of the reasons I picked it up.
The second reason is Customer Service and availability. POF did not return my emails or calls, but LW did, and promptly too.
They also spent a good amount of time with me on the phone just chewing the fat and helping me understand the system.
Regarding availability... (at this point and time) POF=Take a number, LW=Has some in stock and some of their dealers are currently stocked.
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Anyways, if you have the chance, go try and look at both. And while I may have sounded like I was a bit harsh on POF, I still kinda want one. I have 2 FAL's and I'm familiar with the system, so operating a POF should be the same. Talk about Black Rifle Disease!
take a pick!!!! :59: chocolate or strawberry
I had ZERO problems with either piston upper however the complete POF system upper lower looks more like a HK416 than my LMT/LW AR .....
Also Busmaster beat Colt in producing the piston upper they have a PISTON UPPER already out they are only selling complete rifles though my C3 SOT has 2 in stock they are running about $1600 per rifle avail in 16" to civilians 14" and under to C3 Only according to Bushmaster
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I see your point and I understand where my statement was incomplete. But to the point of the Original posters Question about which is closer to the HK415, it is still the LW, because of its self regulation.Wow.
Please allow me to correct your statement. You may not fully aware of how our operating system works. We have a reversable gas piston, which offers two modes of fire. Our system WILL work in either position with a suppressor. We offer a additional option to allow the user to reduce gas pressure when using a suppressor. We have been doing this for awhile now. Add a suppressor to any weapon system and it WILL pressure the weapon up (IE: increased rate of fire).
H&K uses self regualting gas piston system. Lw uses a operating system that is very close in design to H&K's system. H&K just showed their latest upgrade to their HK417 weapon system using a dual mode set up for normal and suppressed modes. They just showed this at HK-Blackwater International Training Services Demo and Open House October 23. 2006. It's nice to see others agree with our engineering / design (Large/oversized barrel nut, mechanical key behind the cam pin on the carrier, and dual mode of fire for normal and supressed operation).
Best regards,
www.POF-USA.com
“A STRIKING DEVELOPMENT IN THE HK417--- A VARIABLE GAS SETTING FOR “N”ORMAL AND “S”UPPRESSED .308 AMMUNITION. IT ALLOWS 7.62 NATO BULLET WEIGHTS RANGING FROM 135-185 GRAINS TO BE FIRED RELIABLY, AND TO PREVENT OVERFUNCTIONING OF THE RIFLE OF RIFLE WHEN USED WITH HEAVIER BULLETS AND A SUPPRESSOR…”
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