LSP, I went to your link without really comprehending what your post was saying, and I didn't catch the reference to #69. So, I went in blind, and just started scrolling through the pictures casually. As soon as I hit #69, it totally JUMPED off the page at me. It REALLY does bring Hi-Point to mind. At first, I felt almost sure that the pistol had been modified! After carefully looking at the picture, I think it is the camera which causes it to appear that way. Almost a fish-eye lens effect. . . sure does make one think Hi-Point though! Yuc!!!