[rant]If you still talk to him...tell them to update their damn training schedule for 2008 and I need to schedule a few courses! [/rant]Me ex works for Blackwater, so I took a look at the SIG Blackwater edition. The custom grips are beautiful...and the Blackwater emblem is pretty cool. But I wasn't about to drop $1K on it especially since SIGs are too big for my hands. I think my stainless H&Ks are too pretty to need any special edition grips![]()
Cost factor. The blackwater SIGs dont actually go to blackwater contractors, they are for civilians who like blackwater and have some spare pocket change. Since the gun is marketed by SIG I doubt a blackwater employee would even get a discount...I only saw BW guys with glocks in Baghdad, but I know that they had a few Hk pistols with suppressors around 2004-05. These were not commonly issued. I know, because one guy wanted to buy all my spare .45 ammo since it was hard to get in country.
Sig didnt actually improve the 226 either. They just added some neat sights and a few extra mags. I just like the logo lol1. Seals use SIG's. Blackwater is a Seal based business.
2. HK does not need Blackwater's input to improve their weapons.
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Actually for many on here, SIG is the only manufacturer they consider on par with HK, although there has been quite a lot of concern since SIGSUAR opened SIGARMS and the QC seems to be more of an issue now that they are made in the US than it ever was when they were manufactured overseas. Don't fool yourself either, there is plenty of SIG snobbery to go around...you just happen to be on an HK board...try SIG forums sometime and you will see what I mean.Having handled the Blackwater, I think the grips look nice, but they have the same issue as the Elite grips - too thick and slick, for me at least.
I also don't get how some of you can actually think that HK makes a superior product to SIG. I guess some snobbery is to be expected on a HK forum, but I think there might be just a bit too much Kool-aid going around.
HK makes an outstanding polymer product. The P7 is the crowning achievement to their metal designs. But to try to say that a P2000 or USP is superior to a P220, P226, or a P229 - you'd have to be on HK koolaid crack.
Its real easy; SIG has had some serious QC issues over the past few years. Example abound on the various forums, but I'll just confine my remarks to the 70+ P226Rs my agency had to return due to mis-machined frames; that had "Frame made in Germany" stamped on them. The SIG kool-aid drinker's refrain that its all a SIGARMS (USA) problem- the lack of QC, that is- is plainly inaccurate.I also don't get how some of you can actually think that HK makes a superior product to SIG.