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Looks like we have Urban Gray in the VP9 and P30 but do you guys think HK will do the colored frames for the USP Series again ??
 

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Looks like we have Urban Gray in the VP9 and P30 but do you guys think HK will do the colored frames for the USP Series again ??
Oh God! If they did it would completely devalue @frogman342 's collection and then we would have one very angry SEAL! No sir, not in HK's best interest!
 

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Who knows, however if a tan USP custom combat was on the California handgun roster I would give it a pretty good chance. I checked though, no colored frames...

The recent releases of stainless compacts, elite 45, and expert 45 models were actually targeting the California roster, as you have a lot of people and a limited variety of guns they can buy, no p30 or vp9, no Tacticals, etc, literally captive audience. So maybe an expert 40 v9?

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Can it be done? Yes. But they would prefer to do custom Cerakote colors for small runs.
 

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Can it be done? Yes. But they would prefer to do custom Cerakote colors for small runs.
How so @straightgrain (just to get you to 20 :wink: )? We are talking about frames, and I think the evidence suggests that cerakoted frames don't hold up well (the cerakote that is) with use. I would think HK would avoid cerakoting the frames and instead opt to just use the color formula for the polymer as they have with the HK45 series recently. I suppose they could coat the slides if they wanted to do something similar to the HK45 color run.
 

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It would be nice to see HK do a run of Urban Gray USP Compacts since they seem to be doing Gray in the VP9 and P30 Series. It seems like I'm always a day late when the 1st run USP Compact Urban Gray's ( AE date code ) come up for sale...
 

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I would be so down. I wish they would do all of the pistols they still produce in all 3 colors. I would love a green frame black slide usp, uspc, and p30 but id take any of the colors
 

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How so @straightgrain (just to get you to 20 :wink: )? We are talking about frames, and I think the evidence suggests that cerakoted frames don't hold up well (the cerakote that is) with use. I would think HK would avoid cerakoting the frames and instead opt to just use the color formula for the polymer as they have with the HK45 series recently. I suppose they could coat the slides if they wanted to do something similar to the HK45 color run.
It's a significant commit on the purchase quantity. The last time we did it, the minimum was 300. Indications are that it will be north of that to do it again.
 

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It's a significant commit on the purchase quantity. The last time we did it, the minimum was 300. Indications are that it will be north of that to do it again.
That would make it VERY hard to Zero in on what USP it would be and what caliber !!! Not sure there would be enough USP guys to make something like that happen ??
 

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Maybe HK could produce a run of the colors again and engrave the slides, "Last 300". If they sell real well, then maybe HK could produce a hundred more.
 

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If HK just produced a colored P30 frame , why wouldn't they produce a colored USP frame ? Just like the "last" run of 500 P7's ? That's the reason I don't invest in HK's ( .45 Elites or .45 Experts ) , they are able to now run what they want to when and if they think it will be profitable.

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The hell with the usp's in colored frames. Give me a mark 23 in tan, green, and grey. We'd be able to pick them all up for not much more than the tan ones go for now! Keeping fingers crossed.
 

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They should really just make all their polymer frames white so you can Rite Dye them whatever color you want.

(A white USP would be pretty fly in itself.)
 

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It's a significant commit on the purchase quantity. The last time we did it, the minimum was 300. Indications are that it will be north of that to do it again.

@straightgrain do you mind elaborating on this please? In my mind doing a run of colored frames merely involves switching out the formula you use for the frames, or ordering a different color raw polymer from your supplier. After that, it's put through the same process as the black poly - maybe with some temperature adjustments to account for the different polymer composition. Otherwise, what's the commitment? I know nothing about the manufacturing process, so I'm asking because clearly there is more to it than that to do a run of say 500 frames, in a colored polymer. What makes the color change such a significant commitment if you don't mind explaining?
 

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I think straightgain is implying that any customer placing an order of "sufficient quantity" can get HK guns in pretty much whatever color you like, with quantity being the operative word. Even though we were able to get at the time a custom group buy of 300 RAL 8000 FDE HK pro hk45c, we would need a higher number.

So in theory if you are uber rich, you could buy maybe
5000 Smurf blue USP Tacticals in 357 Sig with white slides and keep them all for yourself. Or gold plated mp5s.

Of course custom orders aside, the question on the table was more one of marketing, would HK see value in producing a run of USPs in a certain color now without a firm order for them?

This also makes me wonder about those gray p30S models... Why the S, which I wouldn't think was the most popular version... Did they receive an order from a LE or military source specifying gray frame p30S, and we are just getting the overruns? Might explain how they seemed to sneak out onto the market.

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Shockwave pretty much covered the bases. The process isn't that complicated. It's the commit. Not only do they have to run enough to make the enterprise worthwhile, they have to hold a reasonable number in reserve for customer service issues that might arise. And, more importantly, they have to take the line down, away from regular production. It doesn't seem like that much to us, but it really is in the grand scheme of HK things.
 

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Cool then, group buy for OD frame USP Tacticals and matching Mark 23s? I will buy one set if you know 4999 - 9999 others who want them....

But seriously don't really add "I will buy a set" replies here, don't want to turn this into a pseudo roster.

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