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Just thinking, probably not going to jump on anything soon because I hate to spend money... but to those that own HK45c's if you wanted another one just incase your primary went down for repairs, would you buy (if able) another HK45c or a HK45? I don't know if this helps but IF (and thats a big if) I do decide to buy another HK then all I will have pistol wise is the pair of HK's so between the two all roles must be met (i.e. concealed carry, range, home... etc).

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This is exactly what I do, my primary firearms are always duplicated. I train and/or carry one while the other(s) are mere parts and/or replacements just in case. I own two 45c's and wouldn't bat an eye at owning three if I felt compelled. I don't shoot anything as much as I do 9mm, but I shoot enough .45 to justify a multiple of the same platform. Ever travel to compete or train? If you do, you better have two of the same or risk wasting a ton of money on travel, fees, and time. It's just an insurance policy I learned back when I ran the Smith and Wesson M&P. Had an MP Pro 9mm go south on me at a Major Sanctioned Match, not cool.
 

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I just had this realization. I have a gun list I am buying line item by line item. But I realized that my HK45 fits me the best. I just bought an HK45c off a member here, but after that I am focusing on another HK45 and then P30's for the 9mm side of the house.

It is a very very smart Idea to have identical copies of your carry pistol on stand-by just in case. You may have to use it one day, and depending on your state you may or may not get it back after. So if that happens while it will be sad to part with your firearm, you will have an Identical one to take its place. That is very important.
 

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I just had this realization. I have a gun list I am buying line item by line item. But I realized that my HK45 fits me the best. I just bought an HK45c off a member here, but after that I am focusing on another HK45 and then P30's for the 9mm side of the house.

It is a very very smart Idea to have identical copies of your carry pistol on stand-by just in case. You may have to use it one day, and depending on your state you may or may not get it back after. So if that happens while it will be sad to part with your firearm, you will have an Identical one to take its place. That is very important.
Good point about the Law taking it during a investigation. It's either going to be two .45's or two 9mm. I want only one caliber. If I still owned my P2000 (should have never sold it) then I would just pick up a P30. Indentical internals and manual of arms and identical calibers.
 

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Firm believer in "two is one, one is none", etc. More than two, all the better.

The only reasons I wouldn't, with your given scenario/restrictions, is if it just isn't affordable with your circumstances, or if two of the same won't cover all of the necessary roles.
 

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I'm not all about the whole duplicate thing.

For my situation, I own a P2000. I've already preemptively bought CCC Shaggy's for both a P2000sk and P30, which I plan on buying 1 of each.....all 9mm, all DA/SA.

I think there's more than enough similarity there between the P2000sk, P2000 and P30 that I'll be just fine if one, or even two, go down and I'm left with 1 of the three for a course or for concealed carry....provided that I have the mags and holsters for each.

If I instead had a SIG 229, Beretta 92G and P2000, all DA/SA, I'd be happy too (and that's a combo I wouldn't mind owning, I've thought about switching to the Beretta 92G for concealed carry anyways).

I think having the G26 as a secondary is just fine, considering you're not taking courses or competing. The combo I used to have was the P2000 and a Walther PPS....transitioning to the Walther's trigger was obscenely easy to do. My experience so far is that if you can shoot DA/SA correctly and use one as your primary for training, then you can shoot anything with minimal loss in proficiency.

My method does not apply to insanely good shooters who are on the ragged edge of pushing proficiency, you know........the type that commits self-flagellation over time differences 1/10th of a second or less. But for me, I don't see the point of buying two of the same....instead, I can buy two guns sharing enough similarity as to switch without problems, and still have those two guns different enough to bring something to the table for me outside of simply being an idle secondary.....
 

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This is opinion based. I own a hk45c for carry and all else that goes along with that, and a USP 45c for home defense. Both are 45 acp both are compact (for carry) and both have the same action. I do this for the choice on what I wish to carry or as each others backup. If you get a second pistol, make it identical or identical in nature, so your training will suffice for both.
 

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While I'm well off, I haven't duplicated my HKs due to available $$$. But I do have three HKs and if one goes down the others are set up the same way.

If I got into serious competiton, I'd duplicate that weapon.
 

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I just sold my last 1911. I miss it already, but the truth, for me, was that it was only for recreational shooting. For HD, or CCW, I go HK in .40 with a P30, and a P2ksk. Three mags for the sk, but LOTS for the P30, as they can be used in the smaller pistol.

I've settled on one .45 acp, the HK45c. Like it, but not as much as the others.

Still have one Glock in the stable, a 2nd gen (but internals upgraded) G23 that I use while I'm motorcycling. I just happen to have a great shoulder rig that I use with it. Otherwise, I'd lean towards the sk.

I do not worry that when the time comes to use a pistol for defense, it'll be alright. The weapons will take care of themselves. It's up to me for the rest.

Forgot to add that I have just one 9mm. A chromed P7. I just couldn't help myself...
 

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Mine is USP45f, rather than HK45c, but I do own two of it. It's the only gun that I own more than one of the same model/caliber in. My reason is exactly as you have mentioned. I carry it every single day. If I have to send it away for anything, I have another one to carry. There is one minor difference between them, though: One is stainless and the other is HE finish.
 

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Funny that this topic came up. I recently bought an HK45C off a fellow for $725, excellent shape, 2 mags + typical stuff that it comes with. Shot it, sent it off to Gray Guns for a trigger job. Decided I wanted a backup and found another local one for $750 with a couple 8rd mags and 1 10rd mag, so picked that one up too. Low round count and looked as such, but showed a touch of holster wear.

My current train of thought is that I'll have the primary for CC, but will use the secondary 45C for practice/range time/backup. I also have a GGI-worked P30 9mm that the wife likes also that will likely stay as the full-time HD gun with X300 on it, while we both share a GGI competition-worked P30L 9mm for 3gun, etc. She has her own new carry gun, and I'm already thinking about finding her a backup once she determines that is indeed the one she'll want to stick with that will be her practice/range gun.

I'd be carrying that backup HK45C right now if my holster was here yet, but alas the P30 is my current carry.

That is the plan so far.
 

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I subscribe to the Practice Pistol/Carry Pistol rule. Practice and training pistol gets the high round count; carry pistol stays in pristine mechanical condition. I frequently practice with the carry pistol but don't carry the practice pistol in other than emergencies.

The pair should be the same system, but need not be exactly the same. For example I routinely carry an Ed Brown Kobra Carry. This is a Commander size M1911 in .45ACP. My training and practice pistol is a Colt Government Model in 9mm. Sights, grips, trigger, magazines, etc. are all setup the same. 9mm rather than .45ACP for training and practice is not only less expensive (1800 rounds during a two day training course is not uncommon) but also allows use of my right hand on Monday.

Likewise the training pistol for my HK45C-LEM is a 9mm USP9C-LEM. Not identical and if buying new I'd use the P2000, but similar enough there's no transition from the 9mm "sub-caliber" to .45ACP "full caliber" systems. Same sights, trigger, etc.

Two identical pistols has good redundancy, but since I believe in Big Bullets having two .45ACP pistols doesn't give me the advantages of the "sub-caliber" training pistol.

-- Chuck
 

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Likewise the training pistol for my HK45C-LEM is a 9mm USP9C-LEM. Not identical and if buying new I'd use the P2000, but similar enough there's no transition from the 9mm "sub-caliber" to .45ACP "full caliber" systems. Same sights, trigger, etc.
Wow. Why didn't I think of this. This is a really great idea. I'd still hate to be down a HK45c just because I love the gun so much. Unfortunately finding a P2000 light LEM is like trying to find a needle in a haystack. Thanks Chuck, this is a great idea... maybe I'll look into getting a USP compact 9mm, convert it to light LEM then sell off one of my HK45c's... (just brought one yesterday... CANT WAIT!!!). Again thanks Chuck, this is a great idea... I don't think about things like arthiritis or hand and wrist pain because I'm only 25 and don't really have to deal with that stuff yet but from what I see and according to you seasoned shooters (no offense) it seems like the .45 will take it's toll after a while.

Wow great idea, thanks Chuck.
 
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