HKPRO Forums banner

Century Arms CA-3 Initial Impressions

4 reading
21K views 98 replies 30 participants last post by  bluezebra  
#1 · (Edited)
Image

Image

Image

Image

Just picked up my CA-3 today
Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image


Initial Impressions are rifle is built well, Fit and finish is also really good for the parts that were refinished. Welds all look good and clean. Bolt and carrier falls freely in the receiver, stock and pins are all tight with no wobble at the rear. Bolt gap measured at .019 Will update after a range day. Major parts are 1969 FMP marked and the bolt head is HK marked and 1966 marked.

Link to whole set of pictures
 
#21 ·
Rear sight base, MP5 style. No provisions for scope (different rear sight base and no cuts for claw mount) ? sidenote, 23 years to get #1,300 post
 
  • Like
Reactions: Dead_pool
#57 ·
The claw mount bumps are not enough to attach a scope mount. The bumps are also machined to have a cut in them to interface with the feet of the claw mount. That and the absence of the proper G3 sight base is a no go for the claw mount. You may be able to attach something but your accuracy will probably suffer. It would have been better if PTR attached a picatinny rail to the top of the receiver. That's what I would do if I had a CA-3 and wanted to mount an optic on it. YMMV
 
#58 · (Edited)
The claw mount bumps are not enough to attach a scope mount. The bumps are also machined to have a cut in them to interface with the feet of the claw mount. That and the absence of the proper G3 sight base is a no go for the claw mount. You may be able to attach something but your accuracy will probably suffer. It would have been better if PTR attached a picatinny rail to the top of the receiver. That's what I would do if I had a CA-3 and wanted to mount an optic on it. YMMV
I believe PTR sells a PTR91 GI model, similar to the CA-3, with and without a rail attached.

PTR91 G.I.s (model 100, no optics rail) is currently $1200 at Atlantic.


EDIT: Model 101 has a rail -

 
#59 ·
Well, I decided to pull the trigger on a CA-3 today.

I have a nice set of green German G3 furniture that has been waiting for a home. I'll most likely refinish the metal and add the nice furniture. I'm expecting it to be pretty rough overall. We'll see how it functions and shoots.

CA-3s are out there at a few places for about the same price as Atlantic (currently on sale at $770). I bought from Defense Depot in IL because I like to support gun businesses in IL - they can use it. They have a lot to deal with. They were about $10 more than Atlantic.

I've purchased from Defense Depot before, and they have been good.

 
#61 · (Edited)
Picked up my CA-3 yesterday.

About what I expected. Fairly rough in spots. The finish looks to be Parkerizing, which is different from other PTR/Century rifles. The finish looks decent.

The rear sight is smashed, and i called Century to see if they would do anything about it. The guy I talked to in CS said "we no longer service the CA-3". I said no longer - didn't they just come out? He said talk to PTR. I tried to call PTR, but they were not accepting calls. I guess I'll have to email them. (EDIT: just spoke to PTR, and they are sending a new rear sight - no problem)

I had planned to refinish the entire rifle, but probably won't now because it's Parkerized. The lower could use some touch-ups, but it's not bad. The handguard has some corners missing, but I have a decent set of green German furniture I plan to install.

Overall, not bad for right about $800 delivered.

Some photos -
Image


Image

Image

Image
 
#62 ·
Picked up my CA-3 yesterday.

About what I expected. Fairly rough in spots. The finish looks to be Parkerizing, which is different from other PTR/Century rifles. The finish looks decent.

The rear sight is smashed, and i called Century to see if they would do anything about it. The guy I talked to in CS said "we no longer service the CA-3". I said no longer - didn't they just come out? He said talk to PTR. I tried to call PTR, but they were not accepting calls. I guess I'll have to email them.

I had planned to refinish the entire rifle, but probably won't now because it's Parkerized. The lower could use some touch-ups, but it's not bad. The handguard has some corners missing, but I have a decent set of green German furniture I plan to install.

Overall, not bad for right about $800 delivered.

Some photos -
View attachment 466093

View attachment 466097
View attachment 466095
View attachment 466094
Your lower is in much better shape finish wise than mine is, but my rear sight wasn't mangled so I guess that's the trade off. Mine is still running strong 500 rounds later with 0 issues other than the 1 FTE I had in the first 150 rounds
 
#66 ·
That phosphate finish is an excellent base for a spray on finish. Degrease thoroughly and apply your favorite finish to make it look like a million $.
I thought about it, but if Park is the correct finish for a Portuguese G3, I will leave it as is.

Judging from the original trigger housing, it's pretty close.

I powder coated my entire C308 in a satin black powder, and I like it, but I want to keep this one looking as original as possible.

C308 -
Image
 
#69 ·
Manganese phosphate is the same as parkerizing. There's three types of parkerizing, iron, manganese and zinc. Manganese is the dark gray and zinc is much lighter in color. Manganese is typically the one used for firearms these days. Zinc was more prevalent back in WWII. Iron is typically used as a primer for other finishes.

"Parkerizing" is a commercial term named after Clark W. Parker, along with his son Wyman C. Parker, working together, set up the Parker Rust-Proof Phosphating Company of America in 1915.
 
#70 · (Edited)
I haven't had mine to the range yet, but I did field strip, clean, and lube it last night.

Bolt was ok, but I cleaned it anyway. Bolt gap was .015".

The trigger group was pretty dirty, and the ejector was not moving freely until I cleaned it and lubed it.

Then I noticed the end of the cocking lever spring was sticking out. Either it's not in the right place or the spring broke. I started trying to drive the pin out, but it's pretty snug. The cocking handle is a PTR item as well, and I plan to replace it and the spring.

The pin for the cocking lever is driven out from the bottom, and installed from the top - correct?

EDIT - ^ That is correct.
 
#72 ·
Mine were in the same general shape as jkv45's. Minus the dented rear drum sight. As I purchased these at a LGS, I was able to inspect first. It appears to be hit or miss with the finish on the metal lower and the butt stock recoil rod pack assembly have a heavily worn finish. Overall a great price for someone that just wants a occasional shooter and does not want to pay $300+ more for a full blown PTR.
 
#73 · (Edited)
I saw a video the other day about the CA-3 where the guy, an experienced gun-tuber, kept calling it a "Cetme". Then I saw an ad for it at Centerfire Systems that also called it a Cetme.

The Century Cetme is a C308. The CA-3 is a Portuguese G3-based parts kit build with some new U.S. and incorrect parts. It's not a Cetme.

Not sure why they can't get it right.