We need pics!

 

POST A PICTURE SCUMBAG!!! ACT LIKE YOU GOT A PAIR!

 

The receiver and parts were supplied by Vector and Investment Grade Firearms did the build.

 

Doesn't matter... gotta follow protocol, and if you're gonna sell'em, you'd better start postin' pics too...

 

I'll see if I can get some pics.

In the mean time, I can't get the rear stock off. I pulled the pin out just like on my 94 clone, but I can't get the stock to budge. Am I missing something?

 

It seems to me like the stock is more like the type of stock normally found on a 94. Is that why I can't get it off?

Here's a couple pics:

 

its a 93/33 stock(which looks just like MP5) but is to be used only with the buffered bolt carrier(double check that yours is, sure it will be)

but that has no reason why i wont come off, maybe the paint was wet when it went on?

It seems to me like the stock is more like the type of stock normally found on a 94. Is that why I can't get it off?

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I have to ask......how much was it? When Vector made these I believe they were around 1K!


Regards,

R

 

What kind of flash hider is that, and is it permenetly attatched?

If the stock is really stuck, sometimes I lock the cocking handle back, this puts more presure on the stock to come off.

 

what is that? it looks like M16 flash hider???

 

First newbie post here (new to H&K, that is).

Atlantic's current price is $1,599. I got mine a month or two back. Blaine from Atlantic noted that these IGF builds are using HK barrels, not the aftermarket ones used in the Vector builds. (I'll post pictures of mine soon).

Very nice rifle, though the buttstock on my IGF/V93 had more wear than I would have expected - the sling fittings are worn to about 90-95%. Submariner - how was your furniture? Your forearm and grip look 100%.

Another question - the mags in mine fit tight as well, but a bit of wobble front and back. Does this compare to yours?

 

HOT DOG THOSE ARE HOT RIFLES!!!! I'll have to see what I can afford after I sell my UMP, but for $1599.00 that is a great deal.

 

Just throwing this out there, but I bought a great condition HK93 with 7 25rd steel mags for $2300. If you figure up that the mags cost about $50 each, then I only paid $1950 for a German HK93. Granted this was 2 months before Obama came in, but still. Great quality clones like these really help drive the price of HK's down.

 

Nice rifle! I noticed IGF even epoxied the pins in the housing. My Vector didn't. But it's still one of the best shooting 5.56 rifles I own.
Good luck with the new addition Submariner.

 

Actually Vector did not make the parts receiver, SW did (and stamped it "Vector"). I built my own 33 clone of a Gen 3 SW receiver and my stock was also a little tight. But it comes off with a little work. [N.B. I would MUCH rather have furniture fit a little tight than a little loose.] What I am curious about is whether your bolt carrier tries to bind in the receiver towards the rear of its movement.

BTW the gun looks really nice.

 

If you really want to get down to it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that receiver started out as a turkish flat that SW rolled and marked. Its easy to tell a turkish, the rib along the top has a gap right above the ejection port, the new SW ones have the rib all along the top.

 

Here's what I've found so far:

By using the charging handle to manipulate the bolt, it appears that the bolt is moving very smoothly within the receiver. I'm not detecting any point where it gets considerably more difficult to maneuver.

I was finally able to remove the buttstock, by alternating striking it on top and bottom with my palm. The inside of the buttstock it looks very similar to the stock on my Coharie 94.

There is a marking on the trigger group of "1JC".

The bolt carrier is marked along the underside with "004747". I did not see any markings on the bolt head (including the German eagle I would have expected to find if it were a German bolt). The bolt head also appeared to have quite a bit of black gunk on it. I can't tell if this is powder residue or what.

The hammer is marked "PTR91".

 

Damn!!! sounds like it was tough to get off. If your hand starts to hurt, you can put a pin (or screw driver) though the push-pin retaining holes in the stock and use a mallet to whack on that till it comes off.

Nice pictures but the one of the inside of the stock is underexposed. I can't see a thing inside there.

 

922r compliance with these builds?

Was wondering if simply using a german mag would be enough to put you under the min parts count?

1. Frame-Receiver
2. Barrel ??
3. Barrel Extension
4. Mounting Block/Trunnion ??
5. Muzzle Attchment ??
6. Bolt
7. Bolt Carrier
8. Operating Rod (charging handle)
9. Gas Piston
10. Trigger Housing
11. Trigger
12. Hammer
13. Sear ??
14. Disconnector ??
15. Buttstock
16. Pistol Grip
17. Forearm/Handguard
18. Magazine Body
19. Magazine Follower
20. Magazine Floor Plate

I apologize for the newb type question, but I am considering one of these or a similar build and would like to have german mags at least and possibly a german a2 stock.

 

Was wondering if simply using a german mag would be enough to put you under the min parts count?

1. Frame-Receiver
2. Barrel ??
3. Barrel Extension
4. Mounting Block/Trunnion ??
5. Muzzle Attchment ??
6. Bolt
7. Bolt Carrier
8. Operating Rod (charging handle)
9. Gas Piston
10. Trigger Housing
11. Trigger
12. Hammer
13. Sear ??
14. Disconnector ??
15. Buttstock
16. Pistol Grip
17. Forearm/Handguard
18. Magazine Body
19. Magazine Follower
20. Magazine Floor Plate

I apologize for the newb type question, but I am considering one of these or a similar build and would like to have german mags at least and possibly a german a2 stock.

Try the search function using 922 and you'll find plenty on it. If you can't, it would be best to start a new thread of your own.

 

One of my Vector .223 needed stock material remove to allow the stock to be mounted, even using a soft hammer / mallet plus lube.

 

Using the search function definitely helped when I wanted to find out what the law actually stated. My question, however, is directly regarding this particular run of units built by jayson from vector stock for Atlantic firearms. This is why I thought it may be useful to post this on the only real thread I could find regarding this particular run of rifles. Do we know if the barrel, trunion, hider, cocking handle are US pieces?

John, was this with the german a2 stock with the steel attachment point or polymer? Any 922r insight on how you would go about maintaining compliance on the vector 93 kits with german mags and possibly stock.

Again, I apologize if this is common knowledge and I only resorted to posting after I couldn't find a comprehensive answer through my numerous searches.

 

I think we'd all like to know how this and the new Century Arms 93 stack up side by side! At 800.00 bucks vs 1599.00 I think this would be good knowledge to have!

Regards,

r

 

Absolutely.. I was going to buy another AR however after seeing the pics Im a little swayed.. I would like to know a comparison of both companies as well

 

The stock is hard to remove because the recievers are out of spec.
They will not take a metal ended HK stock. Had the same issue with my V93.
Otherwise they are very good guns. Just be sure to fire it and try to get a zero with the irons. Mine was off an inch or so to the right. Also claw mounts are hit and miss, some fit, some don't.

Nothing to do with IGF or Vector, it's SW's fault for not rolling these right.

On mine cocking the handle back and wiggling the stock of while on a table was the best way to get the stock off. Otherwise it was almost impossible.

Contgrats on your purchase!

 

Century has been around forever. Their guns used to very solid...then it was hit or miss. lately it looks like they cleaned up their act and actually hired a couple of qualified smiths to manufacture for them. I've handled a couple of their Golani/Galils and one of their L1A1 SLRs and they seemed to very solid rifles. I'm a picky little bitch when it comes to my firearms to I passed on the Galil and bought an Elite Firearms one instead.....heavy mother, but made very well!!

~R.

 

Anyone know if Atlantic is still selling these at 1699?
Tim

 

Anybody have the link to the Century Arms 93 they are selling? I am interested in reading more about these rifles.

 

They don't have it on their web site.