Essentially there are different types for Caliber, model, full auto vs semi, ambi vs sef. Ask before you go changing stuff to save money and headache.

 

Yeah, just wanted to make sure since I bought a ap5p than needed a trigger pack and I heard there were differences in the housing geometry

 

Mke’s are SEF type trigger pack. Then there are ambi type trigger packs

 

To add, you can use either a semi auto Ambi style or SEF style trigger pack in you AP5-P as long as you use the corresponding trigger housing as well. I’m currently using a factory HK “FBI” semi auto ambi trigger group in my AP5.

 

I have one of the U.S. made aluminum trigger pack boxes in my German SEF push pin housing on my AP5-P. It was a easy way to get four (box, hammer, sear, trigger) U.S. made parts.

 

Questions:
1) Are you aware that 922r doesn't apply to a) pistols and/or b) SBRs?
2) Are they each labeled "Made in USA" with a documented chain of custody?
3) When was the last time someone was prosecuted for 922(r) non-compliance?

 

1. No **** it does not apply to a pistol. Furthermore if you are the one doing the F1 then you are the maker and you must comply with 922r. Same as building any title II rifle with non importable features.

2. All parts clearly marked. Just like in the couple of dozen kits I’ve built over the last twenty years or so. I am not a law enforcement evidence locker, no need for chain of custody. The tech department guys have a good handle on who makes what. I promise you even with parts that are not marked they can tell the difference. Perfect example is wooden AK furniture.

3. I don’t give a **** who, when or if anyone was charged with anything. I don’t need fed fuqboi’s ****ing up a few years of my life or the financial burden of paying legal counsel to keep my freedom. Are you going to pony up the several hundred thousands to pay my legal fees or write me a pardon that exempts me from government prosecution? Didn’t think so

If you want to roll the dice that’s entirely on you. The whole US parts market exist for a reason. Typically end users / owners of the firearms don’t have to worry. Diffrent story for manufactures. If you are the one filing a F1 to make a SBR then you are the maker. Now perhaps with “the free” stamp for pistol braces the rules might have been relaxed. I wasn’t willing to have my SBR’s in limbo when their bs got stomped by the courts so I can’t say for sure.

Additionally if you had any experience with these Turkish trigger boxes you know they have been modified to not allow your selector to move past semi. And no, you really should not modify a tigger box that can easily accept FA parts. Go look that up, I’ll wait. The Turkish guns have a few other surprises for folks that think they can be easily turn one into a MG. Granted if you have a SOT you can do just that (I think). But for us peasants there are things we can not change on these guns.

So now I currently have a pistol with a fantastic trigger that I’ve worked on to be smooth and light. Even though it’s SA only I can still use all the positions on my trigger housing. In addition to that I have most of the needed US made parts when I eventually SBR the damn thing. Still have to find a foregrip and stock, or maybe change the muzzle device.

Do I believe this is all a huge load of bs to infringe on the rights of a American citizen, ABSOLUTELY. The NFA, and several if not most of the alphabet agency’s should not exist. Sadly they do, So one must play by their rules in their house. At least currently.

Any other questions I can help you with?

 

1. No **** it does not apply to a pistol. Furthermore if you are the one doing the F1 then you are the maker and you must comply with 922r. Same as building any title II rifle with non importable features.

2. All parts clearly marked. Just like in the couple of dozen kits I’ve built over the last twenty years or so. I am not a law enforcement evidence locker, no need for chain of custody. The tech department guys have a good handle on who makes what. I promise you even with parts that are not marked they can tell the difference. Perfect example is wooden AK furniture.

3. I don’t give a **** who, when or if anyone was charged with anything. I don’t need fed fuqboi’s ****ing up a few years of my life or the financial burden of paying legal counsel to keep my freedom. Are you going to pony up the several hundred thousands to pay my legal fees or write me a pardon that exempts me from government prosecution? Didn’t think so

If you want to roll the dice that’s entirely on you. The whole US parts market exist for a reason. Typically end users / owners of the firearms don’t have to worry. Diffrent story for manufactures. If you are the one filing a F1 to make a SBR then you are the maker. Now perhaps with “the free” stamp for pistol braces the rules might have been relaxed. I wasn’t willing to have my SBR’s in limbo when their bs got stomped by the courts so I can’t say for sure.

Additionally if you had any experience with these Turkish trigger boxes you know they have been modified to not allow your selector to move past semi. And no, you really should not modify a tigger box that can easily accept FA parts. Go look that up, I’ll wait. The Turkish guns have a few other surprises for folks that think they can be easily turn one into a MG. Granted if you have a SOT you can do just that (I think). But for us peasants there are things we can not change on these guns.

So now I currently have a pistol with a fantastic trigger that I’ve worked on to be smooth and light. Even though it’s SA only I can still use all the positions on my trigger housing. In addition to that I have most of the needed US made parts when I eventually SBR the damn thing. Still have to find a foregrip and stock, or maybe change the muzzle device.

Do I believe this is all a huge load of bs to infringe on the rights of a American citizen, ABSOLUTELY. The NFA, and several if not most of the alphabet agency’s should not exist. Sadly they do, So one must play by their rules in their house. At least currently.

Any other questions I can help you with?

So very angry, aren't you? Is there something in your personal life that causes you to react that way? I asked some questions and you responded that way? Lol. I hope whatever you are going through ends quickly and you can return back to behaving like an adult.

I won't waste my time correcting you, because I can see that there's obviously nothing that will get through to you.

For anyone else reading his (angry little) post, pay him no attention.

 

Trigger packs are interchangable by just swapping the ejector between every hk roller lock gun. Housings are a different topic and there are also, as mentioned by others, the standard and ambi housings which are not interchangeble

 

Nah hero, show me.

Show me the black & white US Code that says it does not apply to a maker of a SBR with imported parts.