[Tankboy]

I’m not sure why people on here feel the need to complain about people rightfully calling out something that should have been done. That’s some really weird controlling behavior, trying to control what people say about a mfg as if it directly affects you in some way. HK USA definitely deserves all of the hate it’s getting. Chrome lining these barrels would have put the HK416 upper and MR223 secondary market in a choke hold lol.

[Moderator edit to remove unprofessional comment]

 

[Doddste]

In other news, my crystal ball told me to expect these to actually hit shelves around late January. I personally am looking forward to this release, and it will make a fine addition to my MR556 that has served me well for the last 13 years.

 

[mark5pt56]

There's number two in my prediction, now just need to be right with the bolt gun as three!

 

[RetropM]

There's number two in my prediction, now just need to be right with the bolt gun as three!

Did you have a number 4? 🙃

 

[asillasitgets]

I’m not sure why people on here feel the need to complain about people rightfully calling out something that should have been done.

How many times does it need to be called out, and by how many people? Isn’t it enough that HK USA engaged in the conversation yesterday and took the feedback directly? What will additional complaints about the same issue, repeated over and over, actually achieve? Do you have anything original to add, or are you just going to restate your opinion that a company you’re not affiliated with should have done what you think is the right thing?

 

[Elitheiceman010]

Genuine question. Why won’t hk USA spin up tooling to make US produced bcg, barrel extension, upper receiver forging dies, stamp forging in the USA like they do for the lower receivers.
Why keep importing those items and be held down by German export law and ATF import law?
It’s a US rifle. Surely HK USA could make op rods, bolts, extractors and other small parts as well as HK Germany.

 

[Jcsantac]

Genuine question. Why won’t hk USA spin up tooling to make US produced bcg, barrel extension, upper receiver forging dies, stamp forging in the USA like they do for the lower receivers.
Why keep importing those items and be held down by German export law and ATF import law?
It’s a US rifle. Surely HK USA could make op rods, bolts, extractors and other small parts as well as HK Germany.

HK USA, as discussed if you've read through the forum, in it's entirety is about the same size as the parking lot in HKO. If they ever decided to expand, which maybe hinges on it's success here with the current product launches they're working on, it would be very expensive.

 

[Elitheiceman010]

They can make lower receivers but not barrel extensions? Because the facility is to small?
I have worked at forging press plants.
I have worked at CNC facilities.
1 takes way more space up and utilities to run the operation on the daily than the other.

 

[Elitheiceman010]

I’m pretty sure hk USA isn’t forging their own lowers.
Do they finish them?

 

[Jcsantac]

They can make lower receivers but not barrel extensions? Because the facility is to small?
I have worked at forging press plants.
I have worked at CNC facilities.
1 takes way more space up and utilities to run the operation on the daily than the other.

Well then, feel free to hit them up about how they can utilize their facility to make what you want.

 

[Elitheiceman010]

Well then, feel free to hit them up about how they can utilize their facility to make what you want.

I’m not trying to be a smart mouth. But they can’t make a barrel extension with out the denial tab in the USA because theirs no room at the facility. How do other firearm manufacturers make barrel extension?

 

[Romanesq]

If what is generally accepted as “new“ features is accurate, I fail to see how this rifle will sell in this market.
If this is your first HK rifle, then you’re options are buying a new A1 for sale at reduced price $2000 ( never mind used inventory). Or buying this new A4 for $4000. Comparing both, it’s a hard sell for the new rifle with a gas block, new hand guard and Ambi.

If however, you’re like most of the folks here and have many rifles, it’s hard to see how you would spend double the dollars for a rifle without a new chrome soul. 😝.

The MR223s and 416 uppers wound up the US market expectations for years now. So much so that this announcement will just end up alienating both buyers.

 

[HKPRO]

I’m not sure why people on here feel the need to complain about people rightfully calling out something that should have been done. That’s some really weird controlling behavior, trying to control what people say about a mfg as if it directly affects you in some way. HK USA definitely deserves all of the hate it’s getting. Chrome lining these barrels would have put the HK416 upper and MR223 secondary market in a choke hold lol.

I’m not sure what type of reaction HK apologist and hkusa would have expected? You cannot be that dull.

I’m not trying to be a smart mouth. But they can’t make a barrel extension with out the denial tab in the USA because theirs no room at the facility. How do other firearm manufacturers make barrel extension?

Removing the denial tab is easy peasy as outlined elsewhere in this thread. Why are you so opposed to a little basic Dremel work which is a staple for most of us who are deeply into this hobby?

You’re up to about 10 posts specifically about the denial tab.

If you put a Brownells gun together, you know that of which I speak when it comes to desired modifications.

 

[Elitheiceman010]

Removing the denial tab is easy peasy as outlined elsewhere in this thread. Why are you so opposed to a little basic Dremel work which is a staple for most of us who are deeply into this hobby?

You’re up to about 10 posts specifically about the denial tab.

If you put a Brownells gun together, you know that of which I speak when it comes to desired modifications.

If it’s so easy why can’t HK USA make one or remove it. How about offer uppers with it already removed.
Again I’m the monster as a consumer that expects a premium product to not be bastardized due to ATF import law and German export law.
Some how nefarious arms can make barrels with out denial tabs but HK USA can’t.

For the the best manufacturer in the world with a world class product theirs seems to be a lot of issues with production capabilities and compromising on product because of their inability to manufacture US parts and having to import nearly the whole rifle except what legal has to be made in the USA.

German law then put a damper on features due to its export law.

Then we decide no chrome lining on top.

I’m the bad guy who whins to much for calling a spade a spade.

 

[HKPRO]

If it’s so easy why can’t HK USA make one or remove it. How about offer uppers with it already removed.
Again I’m the monster as a consumer that expects a premium product to not be bastardized due to ATF import law and German export law.
Some how nefarious arms can make barrels with out denial tabs but HK USA can’t.

For the the best manufacturer in the world with a world class product theirs seems to be a lot of issues with production capabilities and compromising on product because of their inability to manufacture US parts and having to import nearly the whole rifle except what legal has to be made in the USA.

German law then put a damper on features due to its export law.

Then we decide no chrome lining on top.

I’m the bad guy who whins to much for calling a spade a spade.

Message received repetitively loud and clear. You need to stop now. We’ve been over this ad nauseum and you’re not letting go.

Folks who order 10,000 units will get a bigger seat at the table when it comes to modifications.

But this me, my, mine focus is the heart of the issue. You only care about what you want. They have to balance it for the best needs of everyone.

I for one am happy that these guns are coming out, chrome lining would’ve been good. HK USA is here, and they are reading this content.

James W. Is now an important voice on the inside. I don’t know the decision-making behind not chrome lining the barrels.

But every additional feature costs money and drives up the price and these are going to be some of the most expensive ARs on the market.

Seriously, no more about the denial tab. You’ve made your point.

 

[mark5pt56]

Did you have a number 4? 🙃

Nope, but I could say it won't be any fanboy crack pipe dream caliber/platform. Dope is bad kids.

 

[dms16]

Nope, but I could say it won't be any fanboy crack pipe dream caliber/platform. Dope is bad kids.

Just don’t link em to the talk of an HK bolt gun on the hide 😬. Pleasing an HK enthusiast is child’s play compared to that bunch.

 

[UMP45 ENTRY]

Lovely! What number is your mug?

#56

I wonder if the MR556A4 will have the same wider gas block to barrel indexing location as my HK416A5 upper. I’d imagine it’s the same single pin German gas block that’s heat shrunk fitted onto the barrel, but we’ll see soon enough.

 

[dms16]

And the subtle flex goes to UMP.
Nice!

 

[German]

As I've stated before on here... The chrome isn't magic. You can fully DESTROY a barrel with just semi auto in under 1k if one is set out to do so.

Also, I don't think a lot of those that cry for chrome lined barrels do also own a bore scope or have had a look into a well used chrome lined barrel...