[FullAssault]

I don’t think you’re qualified to say that a chrome lined barrel “is the one thing people wanted most”. There have been multiple threads on this topic over the years and many features that were included were frequently requested from the community such as short barrels, Ambi features, adjustable gas blocks, etc.

So far I have been told I can’t afford one and I’m not qualified to post anything fit the narrative from the mods. What’s up with that? The discourse about the lack of chrome lining it’s a secret, that’s the biggest complaint since the the MR dropped on all the social media platforms

 

[asillasitgets]

I am optimistic for the future because of HK USA's engagement on this forum. I believe them hiring James is another sign that they are willing to listen to customer feedback. James has done a lot for the HK community so no need to be a **** to him. Happy to have someone like him advocating for the civilians. / non-SOTs. He is new as an official member of HK so don't shoot the messenger

Yeah, the negative attitude he was receiving on this thread was a bit ridiculous; it definitely felt like shooting the messenger, especially since he was actively trying to engage with us. If we wonder why HK doesn’t listen to us, it’s because of reactions like that. Fortunately, James is well-established here, and I don’t think he’ll take it too personally. But can you imagine if that were someone new to HK, trying to engage with our community for the first time? They’d never come back.

Being an HK fan means having to be patient, patient with product development, product launches, and product availability. We need to extend that same patience to James. I believe he will advocate on our behalf, not only to help HK USA be more successful but also because he genuinely cares about our community.

 

[asillasitgets]

So far I have been told I can’t afford one and I’m not qualified to post anything fit the narrative from the mods. What’s up with that? The discourse about the lack of chrome lining it’s a secret, that’s the biggest complaint since the the MR dropped on all the social media platforms

My statement is accurate. Did you conduct any polling or market survey to gather data on whether a chrome-lined barrel “is the one thing people wanted most”? No, you didn’t, it’s just your perception, and it likely isn’t as widely held as you believe. Sure, there are plenty of people who want a chrome-lined barrel (myself included), but others might prioritize ambidextrous controls, an adjustable gas block, or another feature over the chrome-lined barrel.

We know this for two reasons. First, HK has sold thousands of MR556A1s, and they continue to sell even without chrome-lined barrels. Second, the countless discussions here (and in other places where HKs are frequently discussed) where people share the features they want from HK and a new MR556.

Yes, it’s the biggest complaint, but it’s not going to change at this point, so move on with your life. HK has seen and heard the feedback. They likely began manufacturing barrels and rifles months ago and have built up inventory that’s ready to go out the door. The ship has sailed on chrome-lined barrels for the MR556A4 for now, and no amount of complaining from those who want to whine about it incessantly will change that. If you don’t like it, don’t buy it, someone else will surely be happy to take your place.

There is more to discuss here than chrome lining, and the opportunity for the discussion of a substantial product launch (the MR556A4) is being overshadowed because some people can’t accept what HK USA has clearly articulated and move on.

 

[Elitheiceman010]

Yeah, the negative attitude he was receiving on this thread was a bit ridiculous; it definitely felt like shooting the messenger, especially since he was actively trying to engage with us. If we wonder why HK doesn’t listen to us, it’s because of reactions like that. Fortunately, James is well-established here, and I don’t think he’ll take it too personally. But can you imagine if that were someone new to HK, trying to engage with our community for the first time? They’d never come back.

Being an HK fan means having to be patient, patient with product development, product launches, and product availability. We need to extend that same patience to James. I believe he will advocate on our behalf, not only to help HK USA be more successful but also because he genuinely cares about our community.

ok don’t voice concerns don’t criticize hk. Wait for years to get upgrades and be told they don’t believe we need chrome lining when it’s been asked for a lot. This shouldn’t even be a complaint.

 

[dms16]

Yeah, the negative attitude he was receiving on this thread was a bit ridiculous; it definitely felt like shooting the messenger, especially since he was actively trying to engage with us. If we wonder why HK doesn’t listen to us, it’s because of reactions like that. Fortunately, James is well-established here, and I don’t think he’ll take it too personally. But can you imagine if that were someone new to HK, trying to engage with our community for the first time? They’d never come back.

Did you/they/he expect a different reaction just because the it came from a familiar face?

 

[asillasitgets]

ok don’t voice concerns don’t criticize hk. Wait for years to get upgrades and be told they don’t believe we need chrome lining when it’s been asked for a lot. This shouldn’t even be a complaint.

The concern has been voiced, the complaint has been made, the feedback has been received by an HK USA employee here in this thread. At this point it’s just whining and negativity, which isn’t productive and adds no value.

 

[doublefeedjam]

@asillasitgets sorry if this has been answered - is the BCG full profile or semi only. What profile are the barrels? are they backwards compatible with clone correct gas blocks?

 

[marshalltx]

It depends on what you mean by "last".

Hold a level of accuracy?
Throat errosion/fire cracking?
Velocity drop off?

Ballpark....and I mean ROUGH ballpark on a semi-auto 5.56 not being shot foolishly, if you're willing to accept up to 4 MOA, probably 35-40k of barrel life on a CL CHF. So a few sets of gas rings and a recoil spring or two at least worth of parts .

If a rifle is more than 2MOA, it becomes a shovel.

 

[dms16]

If a rifle is more than 2MOA, it becomes a shovel.

I would concur, but as noted heavily in this thread, needs vary greatly.

 

[asillasitgets]

Did you/they/he expect a different reaction just because the it came from a familiar face?

I expect people to be civilized and act with some level of maturity. Especially when a representative from HK USA was taking time to better understand consumer preference, and explain the company’s philosophy and approach. And yes, James is one of us, and I would expect people to give him the benefit of the doubt. Don’t confuse his explanation of the why behind not chrome lining the barrel with him intoning the argument for it. I’m confident a James will take the feedback to those that need to hear it, and with some luck it will translate into a positive development for this community. It certainly won’t hurt the situation.

 

[asillasitgets]

@asillasitgets sorry if this has been answered - is the BCG full profile or semi only. What profile are the barrels? are they backwards compatible with clone correct gas blocks?

We don’t know for sure, but I’d say it’s highly likely that this rifle will have a semi-auto carrier, the barrel extension tab that prevents the installation of a full-auto bolt carrier, and the corresponding relief cut on the bolt carrier.

 

[TheAsterite]

Is the barrel at least melonited? I can excuse the CL if there's at least some treatment/conversion applied to the barrel.

 

[RetropM]

The vast majority of the people buying these will never shoot it enough for the chrome-lined barrel to make a difference, including a lot of the commenters here.

I see both sides of this topic, but the absolute entitlement of some of the people here and on the Facebook group over this (and the CC9) is ridiculous.

 

[Jcsantac]

The vast majority of the people buying these will never shoot it enough for the chrome-lined barrel to make a difference, including a lot of the commenters here.

That and they could probably use all the accuracy they can get. CL takes away from that. 🤭

 

[doublefeedjam]

We don’t know for sure, but I’d say it’s highly likely that this rifle will have a semi-auto carrier, the barrel extension tab that prevents the installation of a full-auto bolt carrier, and the corresponding relief cut on the bolt carrier.

Gotcha so literally the opposite of everything everyone was asking for. Please don't dismiss my disappointment as irrelevant because you know that's not the case.

 

[Brad4065]

Here's an idea....how about we wait, put our hands on it, run it through the mud a few times and see how it knocks down some targets, BEFORE taking a sh$t on it.

From what I've seen thus far, HK is batting 2 for 2 this year.....and is positioned for a 4 for 4 as I see it. Wait for it......

 

[Elitheiceman010]

The concern has been voiced, the complaint has been made, the feedback has been received by an HK USA employee here in this thread. At this point it’s just whining and negativity, which isn’t productive and adds no value.

I do apologize if I have come across that way.
The multiple posters that seem like a lot of whining is probably showing the sourness.

 

[UMP45 ENTRY]

I’m buying one or more either way, idc about the chrome lined barrel. If I want, I’ll have the barrel chrome lined or nitrided myself.

I am curious though. What’s the real reason HK USA didn’t chrome line them when they know that almost everybody wanted it?

Was it cost?

Did HKO tell them they weren’t allowed to?

Clearly it’s not because HK USA believed the 11” version to be a real match rifle.

My 11” barrel is chrome lined 😁🇩🇪

 

[dms16]

I expect people to be civilized and act with some level of maturity. Especially when a representative from HK USA was taking time to better understand consumer preference, and explain the company’s philosophy and approach. And yes, James is one of us, and I would expect people to give him the benefit of the doubt. Don’t confuse his explanation of the why behind not chrome lining the barrel with him intoning the argument for it. I’m confident a James will take the feedback to those that need to hear it, and with some luck it will translate into a positive development for this community. It certainly won’t hurt the situation.

I have no illusion James is doing his job. Those who A) live under your roof or B) pay your bills always have a say. Honestly I'm 95% sure James has me on his ignore list anyways.
I understand you, German, Tom likely are bound to certain points of view that many of the basic membership here are not.

As I have said here to one of the other mods,
In working with "average Americans" it's very clear they absolutely HATE being told what they do/don't need. It's a visceral reaction...no matter how good the argument. You can convince them easily they lack a capability or can do something easier...but it's dangerous to mess with "the heart wants what it wants".
I don't blame a person or entity if they don't want to play to that dynamic, but I also don't hold any sympathy if they choose to ignore it.

 

[dms16]

I’m buying one or more either way, idc about the chrome lined barrel. If I want, I’ll have the barrel chrome lined or nitrided myself.

I am curious though. What’s the real reason HK USA didn’t chrome line them when they know that almost everybody wanted it?

Was it cost?

Did HKO tell them they weren’t allowed to?

Clearly it’s not because HK USA believed the 11” version to be a real match rifle.

They're still clinging to the CL reduces accuracy angle.