[RegularGuy461969]

Lol and you just told me you actually have no clue who you’re addressing. They rarely get praise from me here.

No truer words been spoken and I can certainly attest to that... 😂😉

 

[Crashmc]

Lol and you just told me you actually have no clue who you’re addressing. They rarely get praise from me here.

" Reading comprehension is the ability to process text, understand its meaning, and to integrate with what the reader already knows ".Wikipedia 😂

 

[RetropM]

I am a member on multiple gun forums and I must say that nobody trashes HK more than HKPro members.

 

[Mawashi]

I respect the guy and no doubt those guys get a tremendous amount of experience shooting a lot more rounds with excellent training than most could afford. That said, I don’t understand why anyone would put down a platform that they know works for them based on comments like he made. I think you would have to be pretty insecure to do so. I also do not understand why someone would not try a platform based on those comments. Same reason.
That’s his experience/opinion. He prefers other triggers. Noted. Take it or not based on your experience.
Personally, calling a VPs trigger problematic is not my experience. There are better triggers out there and there are other price brackets out there too lol! I have experience with both the VP and the platform he is using in the video. I think they are both excellent and would be hard pressed to say one is “better” or even pick a favorite.
At the end of the day, your (and his) mileage may vary. It would be kind of weird if there was only one opinion on the matter...

 

[Crashmc]

I respect the guy and no doubt those guys get a tremendous amount of experience shooting a lot more rounds with excellent training than most could afford. That said, I don’t understand why anyone would put down a platform that they know works for them based on comments like he made. I think you would have to be pretty insecure to do so. I also do not understand why someone would not try a platform based on those comments. Same reason.
That’s his experience/opinion. He prefers other triggers. Noted. Take it or not based on your experience.
Personally, calling a VPs trigger problematic is not my experience. There are better triggers out there and there are other price brackets out there too lol! I have experience with both the VP and the platform he is using in the video. I think they are both excellent and would be hard pressed to say one is “better” or even pick a favorite.
At the end of the day, your (and his) mileage may vary. It would be kind of weird if there was only one opinion on the matter...

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[Hyperborean]

Glover is a well known guy, he knows his ****. If people don't know who he is, that's on you. Anyone can watch his videos and learn something unless you were fortunate enough to be in a comparable situation as he was.


HK isn't widely used anywhere in the USA mil/leo. Thats ok, because it isnt always about getting the best equipment if you're part of a government department. They def have dollars and cents on the mind, and one of the luxuries of being a civilian is we get to be choosier.

I don't really believe the vp9 is necessarily better or worse than any other striker fired. It all depends on what you're trying to do, and all too often the gun community wants a gun that is shtf ready but is also a good shooter for ccw like they're gonna turn into Rambo at any given moment after eating an extra large pizza with a large coke.

The benefit of the vp9 is really straight forward, it's an easy shooter, the barrel lasts a very long time because it's similar in design to the p30 barrel and if you're into the paddle release, well there ya go.

The downsides of the vp9 are mostly related to cost, and it is prohibitive for many departments that need a high quantity of them, and since most decent brands are all going to be good enough for pretty much any reasonable situation, the one that is cheaper is going to win. HK is simply too tied to the German government which makes things harder for them in certain markets. Also, if you need to replace a part on a vp9, it's going to be more complicated than on some other firearms.

I think there is too much myth and legend surrounding the equipment in the gun community, very similar to the guitar community... Most guns are fine, focus on your technique (which almost nobody does. Why buy ammo and practice when you can buy more fancy gear?!)

 

[RetropM]

all too often the gun community wants a gun that is shtf ready but is also a good shooter for ccw like they're gonna turn into Rambo at any given moment after eating an extra large pizza with a large coke.

A little louder for those in the back. I've worked in some **** environments and the person will often fail or the circumstances change before the average service gun will fail, that is unless the individual causes said failure.






My Les Paul Custom is still the best guitar ever though.

 

[CDKJudoka]

That had to be the LONGEST Sig P320 commercial I have ever seen. That being said, I have had multiple VP9s and P320s, and I didn't really think one was better shooting than the other. Personally, I prefer the ergos and mag release on the HK, and the trigger (post Sig drop fix) is better on the VP9. I felt my 320 felt a little cheaper because of the grip module, but both are good pieces.

 

[asillasitgets]

I watched the video, and I honestly don’t equate what he said to “trash talking” and I don’t know how a brief comment about Glock’s and the HK VP9 pistol’s reset could in anyway infer that HK isn’t relevant in Tier 1 units any longer, especially considering the use of the 416, 417 and MP7 by those units.

 

[dms16]

I think there is too much myth and legend surrounding the equipment in the gun community, very similar to the guitar community... Most guns are fine, focus on your technique (which almost nobody does. Why buy ammo and practice when you can buy more fancy gear?!)

Listen, are you gonna tell me which compensator John Wick uses on his P30 or not?

 

[dms16]

That had to be the LONGEST Sig P320 commercial I have ever seen.

...and nailed it!

I think we can wrap this dumpster fire up. The white knights are here defending their youtube viewing preferences and telling people which boots to lick and who their heroes should be.

And ultimately IGS (the OP) got exactly what he wanted...a 3-ring circus of f*ckery.

 

[HKPRO]

If you have big pipes, you can charge more. 😉

 

[dms16]

If you have big pipes, you can charge more.

LOL...I'll pay more for this lil guy's instruction any day. He ain't wasting no time in the gym:

 

[128046]

I watched the video, and I honestly don’t equate what he said to “trash talking” and I don’t know how a brief comment about Glock’s and the HK VP9 pistol’s reset could in anyway infer that HK isn’t relevant in Tier 1 units any longer, especially considering the use of the 416, 417 and MP7 by those units.

^ This, but it sure unleashed the Butt Hurt from the Brotherhood.

 

[CDKJudoka]

^ This, but it sure unleashed the Butt Hurt from the Brotherhood.

It's not too hard for the Brotherhood to get butt hurt though.

 

[igs]

Thats ok, because it isnt always about getting the best equipment if you're part of a government department. They def have dollars and cents on the mind, and one of the luxuries of being a civilian is we get to be choosier.

 

[Mawashi]

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Yeah but the hardware store can’t funnel money for projects that don’t need to be on the books....gotta pay for the surprises somehow.
Probably much more concerned with spending on the civil side/social issues.
At least with one you bought a nut instead of creating others.

 

[AMRAAM_Missiles]

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Although I also chuckled at this, but being in the flight sims community, i have learned through out the years that a "normal" item that it might seem outside, for example, a button switch, might not totally be normal for the military edition. Most aircraft switches and buttons are MIL-rated for it to be used and properly functioned under extreme condition, even in the scenario of chemical/nuclear attacks. Now i don't know much about the material sciences behind a nut/bolt/button, but that definitely warrant some mark up for the manufacturers to pre-test all of those things before they can even submit it for use in the MIL.

 

[RetropM]

Although I also chuckled at this, but being in the flight sims community, i have learned through out the years that a "normal" item that it might seem outside, for example, a button switch, might not totally be normal for the military edition. Most aircraft switches and buttons are MIL-rated for it to be used and properly functioned under extreme condition, even in the scenario of chemical/nuclear attacks. Now i don't know much about the material sciences behind a nut/bolt/button, but that definitely warrant some mark up for the manufacturers to pre-test all of those things before they can even submit it for use in the MIL.

Yup. part of my current job duties include being a flight officer and it is amazing the level of engineering that goes into seemingly mundane parts when aircraft are involved. That being said, the government does spend an insane amount of money on everyday items due to the red tape involved with procurement.

 

[Mawashi]

Although I also chuckled at this, but being in the flight sims community, i have learned through out the years that a "normal" item that it might seem outside, for example, a button switch, might not totally be normal for the military edition. Most aircraft switches and buttons are MIL-rated for it to be used and properly functioned under extreme condition, even in the scenario of chemical/nuclear attacks. Now i don't know much about the material sciences behind a nut/bolt/button, but that definitely warrant some mark up for the manufacturers to pre-test all of those things before they can even submit it for use in the MIL.

Wait a minute...you mean they don’t get those at Lowe’s???
Cool insight. Thanks!