Doesn’t look like Tom’s 37mm launchers, and doesn’t look like any HK launcher I've seen. I wonder where this came from and why it has HK markings on it?

 

Tom B said, these are a big nope. Not a thing HK ever made and certainly not with a B&T grip. Some kind of cobbled together setup.

 

Yes…… interesting. I have a small collection of 37’s. Wondering the same.🤨

 

I'm not a native speaker, but I think the wording is kinda off here:

For the first time ever, the H&K M320-A5 available in civilian legal 37mm, as used by the US Army.

In 37 mm as used by the US Army?

Do they, though?

 

I'm not a native speaker, but I think the wording is kinda off here:



In 37 mm as used by the US Army?

Do they, though?

Maybe ? for less lethal ? … but there are gas cannister rounds for the 40 Mike Mike…

 

Both the HK as well as the CAPCO M320 have a differently shaped right side reciever opening.
Both the HK as well as the CAPCO M320 have no visible trigger pins above the trigger.
Both the HK as well as the CAPCO M320 have a different grip design.

So it's likely not a civilian CAPCO production run as well (I would assume that they don't have the capability nor the need to do any further development for a product they have a as-is production contract for).

And if it would be the alledged "new" and recent "A5" iteration by HK (which would pose the question where the A3 and A4 iterations are?), then the Eagle-over-N proofmark would be a current CIP-N proofmark.

 

So it's likely not a civilian CAPCO production run as well (I would assume that they don't have the capability nor the need to do any further development for a product they have a as-is production contract for).

Hopefully I'm not hijacking the thread here. And, I believe @German doesn't reside in the states, but does anyone know if Capco has produced civilian M320's in the states? Gunbroker turns up nothing other than the GSG9 clone I already mentioned, and someone with a purported authentic HK M320 stock.

 

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A clone should be called a clone... then I think we all know what we are buying and premium price drops considerably.

 

I am in for one of these, unfortunately I am out of town or I'd head over to their shop monday and see in person what the story is, but AU has proven they bring in legit H&K time after time, and most of the time they're the only guys accomplishing it. They wouldn't sell H&K marked product if it wasn't H&K

H&K MR223, Colt M4 Commando lowers, and Colt M203 37mm, all times the forum crybabies said it was not possible and all times AU delivered, whoever scored them has collector pieces that more than doubled in value in a very short time.

All respect to Tom but he is ultimately a cloner, he doesn't bring any real H&K product to market.

the AU haters always hate, yet half the time they can't afford the stuff and the other half they buy it but cry anyway

 

I am in for one of these, unfortunately I am out of town or I'd head over to their shop monday and see in person what the story is, but AU has proven they bring in legit H&K time after time, and most of the time they're the only guys accomplishing it. They wouldn't sell H&K marked product if it wasn't H&K



the AU haters always hate, yet half the time they can't afford the stuff and the other half they buy it but cry anyway

This isn't manufactured by HK. That's been established. If you want to blow 5k on a misrepresentation, that's up to you.

In general I agree that AU has brought in some good stuff, but this is dishonest.

 

They wouldn't sell H&K marked product if it wasn't H&K

Hmhm, we'll see how this one turns out.

but AU has proven they bring in legit H&K time after time, and most of the time they're the only guys accomplishing it.

This thime there are no civilian M320A5 on the German market they can scoop up produced as rifles, magically convert them to pistols to import them before getting slapped on the fingers. "Accomplishment" is relative.

And HK surely isn't interested in selling grenade launchers to civilians as well. So, I'd call it a... challenge... this time...

Even when all the little bits and pieces would actually fit, which they don't.

the AU haters always hate, yet half the time they can't afford the stuff and the other half they buy it but cry anyway

Well, this thread offers enough hints to verify your opinion.

Actually doing it is up to you, nobody can do that for you.

 

The fact that they are representing these as manufactured by HK is making me frown.

 

I will find out more from them when I have a chance, I've got a pretty good relationship with their shop and am local. They have never been known to me for selling clones or misrepresenting items they sell.

 

I would certainly appreciate more information… thanks in advance.

I have done business with them as well with good experience.
Look forward to finding out more provenance…😉

 

I contacted them today about it. I am impressed by their quick response on a Sunday. Kudos to them.

They are saying it’s an official HK product. I’ll be buying one!

 

I contacted them today about it. I am impressed by their quick response on a Sunday. Kudos to them.

They are saying it’s an official HK product. I’ll be buying one!


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This looks like an MKE serial number.

 

This looks like an MKE serial number.

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That’s it. It’s a Kale Kalip KGL40. A Turkish grenade launcher that they appear to have had made in 37mm for a signaling device, and marked with HK markings.

 

Link goes nowhere.

 

They took it down.

 

Looks like they’ve already taken it down.

 

For $5k I hope those who buy this launcher at least get some free kebab with their poorly executed Turkish M320 forgery.

 

Feel bad for whoever bought one already

 

I’m having AU deja vu. Lol.

 

Here is the entire original listing in case anyone is curious what was listed.

 

M320A1 or bust for this 18Bravo…..I accept no substitutes!

 

I'll admit, they scratch an itch few others are willing to. But I am not a fan of their pricing tactics. I have an econimcs degree, so I understand supply and demand, doesn't mean I have to like.

 

In case anyone wants more details on their brand new Turkish 37mm signaling device.

 

The whole "Kale Kalip" catalogue is a pretty impressive lineup of stolen copied borrowed (purchased?) intellectual property.

I wonder how much is actually licensed (they seem to have a license for the AX50 for example, the AR/HK417 derivate that surfaced a couple of years ago likely isn't).

Kind of a "Who is Waldo" search game for grownups.

 

I think the biggest red flag is that it’s not a 40mm launcher, it’s a 37mm. Given their track record, HK would NEVER make a civilian compliant grenade launcher. I guarantee they’d give us an SP7 before that ever happens, and we all know how that’s going

 

Given their track record, HK would NEVER make a civilian compliant grenade launcher.

HK is actually manufacturing several of their grenade launcher models in 37mm due to various reasons - civilian sales is not one of them.

I guarantee they’d give us an SP7 before that ever happens

That's not unlikely.

and we all know how that’s going

Well...

 

HK is actually manufacturing several of their grenade launcher models in 37mm due to various reasons - civilian sales is not one of them.



That's not unlikely.



Well...

Not doubting you but could you link me to an article, posting, or anything regarding HK's 37mm launchers? I'd like to learn more.

 

What really boggles my mind is that they apparently forgot how knowledgeable and tight this interest group is. And that it is their main target audience.

 

They are not the only ones who forget the power/popularity and knowledge base of HK Pro members.😉

 

In a hurry right now, but the L104A1 Baton Gun would be one path to start a research.
I've seen newer models in 37 mm as well.