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What SERVICE rifle has a respectable military adopted in the last 20 years without a chrome bore?

Sure, can name a few that were surprisingly recent, Serbs with their M64/M70 series, RK62, SG 550, HK roller guns...all mistakes in my mind too even if they're quality rifles. And all 20th century designs.

Whatever you want to call it, a service rifle/assault rifle/general purpose rifle has a chrome bore full-stop. No excuses. Certainly not for over $3500.

Not to mention that, obviously, anyone buying the A4 want's the 416 heritage and design: and HK 416s have chrome lined bores.
How many times must this be brought up, discussed, and complained about? HK USA’s decision is what it is, move on. There are plenty of other facets of the MR556A4 and MR762A4 to discuss, and that’s what people are trying to do here. It would be helpful if we didn’t have the conversation interrupted by people who feel the need to express their dissatisfaction here regarding the omission of chrome lined barrels. None of you are making points or presenting original ideas that haven’t been discussed in this thread ad nauseam.

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lock the thread at this point.
There is no sense in penalizing those who are actually here to talk about other facets of the rifle. Were also funneling all conversation on this topic here so that we don’t end up with 1,000 threads on the same rifle/announcement.
 
Besides the chrome-lined barrel, what is the difference between the MR556A4 and the HK416A5?
Biggest difference between the the MR556A4 and the HK416A5 (aside from the one point that's been done to death already) is that the MR556A4 uses the 45 degree safety that was introduced on the HK416A7/A8 models that collectively form the basis for the German Army G95 family of rifles. The MR556A4 even uses the KSK G95K type selector lever as pointed out a couple of pages back.
 
How many times must this be brought up, discussed, and complained about? HK USA’s decision is what it is, move on. There are plenty of other facets of the MR556A4 and MR762A4 to discuss, and that’s what people are trying to do here. It would be helpful if we didn’t have the conversation interrupted by people who feel the need to express their dissatisfaction here regarding the omission of chrome lined barrels. None of you are making points or presenting original ideas that haven’t been discussed in this thread ad nauseam.
I'm discussing the A4 in the A4 discussion thread.

The MR556A4 only exists because of customers like me "beating the dead horse" of the legacy MR being poorly featured. Companies invest and improve products when customers demand them. The A4 is a step in the right direction but needs further changes, most crucially a proper chrome bore. It's ridiculous to demand this be ignored.
 
The MR556A4 only exists because of customers like me "beating the dead horse" of the legacy MR being poorly featured.
Don’t flatter yourself. It had nothing to do with you.

Companies invest and improve products when customers demand them.
No, companies invest and improve products so they can increase revenue, and generate profits.


It's ridiculous to demand this be ignored.
It’s ridiculous for every person upset with HK USA’s decision to vocalize their frustration here. You’re not offering any new ideas or original thoughts that haven’t already been shared in this thread. If you had taken the time to read it in its entirety, you’d see that HK USA isn’t ignoring the feedback, they’ve participated in the discussion and explained the rationale behind their decision. It’s not going to change, even though they understand it’s not what many of us want. No amount of posts from people like you, who feel compelled to express your outrage and opinion, will change that. There are other facets of the rifles and updates that everyone would like to discuss without a chrome lined barrel complaint every few posts.


I'm sharing my view that their reasoning is quite nonsensical. Occam's Razor: the A4 barrel's aren't chromed to reduce costs and increase profits.
Nonsensical to you. They have their reasons, if you don’t like it, don’t buy the rifle. They’ll still sell plenty.
 
Has anyone found out if the mags will be pmag gen 2 compatible?
 
Has anyone found out if the mags will be pmag compatible?
The A5 and onwards 416’s, along with the MR223A3’s and onward are compatible with P-mags. If you look at the angled magazine well on the MR556 A4 as opposed to the straight magazine well on the MR557 A1, that’s to accommodate a wider range of magazines. So the answer to your question is Yes.
 
The A5 and onwards 416’s, along with the MR223A3’s and onward are compatible with P-mags. If you look at the angled magazine well on the MR556 A4 as opposed to the straight magazine well on the MR557 A1, that’s to accommodate a wider range of magazines. So the answer to your question is Yes.
Sorry, I edited my question after you started replying. Thank you for the quick response though! I have heard others mention their gen 2 pmags would run on the mr556. So am I understanding you correctly that the new designed magwell of the A4 should be gen 2 compatible?
 
Don’t flatter yourself. It had nothing to do with you.


No, companies invest and improve products so they can increase revenue, and generate profits.




It’s ridiculous for every person upset with HK USA’s decision to vocalize their frustration here. You’re not offering any new ideas or original thoughts that haven’t already been shared in this thread. If you had taken the time to read it in its entirety, you’d see that HK USA isn’t ignoring the feedback, they’ve participated in the discussion and explained the rationale behind their decision. It’s not going to change, even though they understand it’s not what many of us want. No amount of posts from people like you, who feel compelled to express your outrage and opinion, will change that. There are other facets of the rifles and updates that everyone would like to discuss without a chrome lined barrel complaint every few posts.



Nonsensical to you. They have their reasons, if you don’t like it, don’t buy the rifle. They’ll still sell plenty.
It had everything to do with me and customers like me saying the MR series needed a refresh. The MR A4 isn't a passion project, it's an attempt to increase profits yes...by giving customers what they've demanded for years. I don't understand why a serious enthusiast would be so defensive of a glaring missing feature like a chrome bore. The frustration seems misdirected.

A simple thought experiment: if the barrel was chrome lined would HK fans be complaining about the supposedly great loss of accuracy this causes. and would anyone be asking for an option with an unlined barrel?
 
And here is where it refers to "Lifetime warranty"....don't like the barrel after 12K rounds...replace. What's not to like? Try it....if you don't like it....sell it. I'll buy it.
 
Sorry, I edited my question after you started replying. Thank you for the quick response though! I have heard others mention their gen 2 pmags would run on the mr556. So am I understanding you correctly that the new designed magwell of the A4 should be gen 2 compatible?
That’s correct, any AR15 magazine should work, including the older P-Mags.
 
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